If forgotten then the future is determined by the past. In 1860 Democrats took Lincoln off the ballot in 10 states. He won anyways by electoral votes. The civil wars started the next year. They want a civil war to remove the constitution that limits their power.

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Evil has no power to create, only to destroy. Evil only uses old tricks modified to work in the times. Therefore we can see their goal is civil war.

Democrats took candidate Lincoln off the ballot in 10 states in 1860. These states were South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Virginia.

Lincoln did not appear on the ballots in those Southern states because they did not support his candidacy due to his anti-slavery stance. The Democrats wanted to keep slavery forever.

However, despite not being on the ballots in those states, he won the election with a majority of electoral votes from the states where he was on the ballot. Remember that Democrats have been actively trying to remove the electoral system for years and have been successful in several states. They were preparing to succeed where they once failed.

Then the United States was deeply divided over the issue of slavery and its expansion into the western territories. Today those that have conquered the world financially by deceptive banking want to enslave the world under their own world slavery system. We seem to have forgotten that a large part of slavery was debt based slavery. And today's Americans are divided on the issue of becoming slaves to a world government or keeping their individual freedoms.

The choice is between a person that represents international corporations and the banking empire verses the person they openly hate most. The person that has a history of doing what is best for the country and it's people to the best of his ability, while facing huge political and global opposition, and whom we hope to do so again.

Once they loose power they will start war and that is what they want. The group literally includes the military industrial complex. Destruction and war is where evil succeeds. They have been openly trying to kick off civil war but have been unsuccessful as to yet. The country is flooded with foreign fighting age men in preparation for their war. God help us all.

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[–]Lovebirds_fury 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You really think that orange piece of shit is fighting for the people? He is filthy rich. In which fantasy world do you live? This is not an issue of republican or democrats. Every politician bows to corporations and banks.

[–]yellowsnow2[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Rothschild had 2018 scheduled for the one world currency transition since 1988. Announced on the cover of 1988 issue of the Rothschild publication. https://i.imgur.com/UINgIEy.jpg

Trump was attempting to restore constitutional currency by seizing power back from the Fed Reserve Banks and returning it to the Treasury as the constitution requires, or possibly to steal this power for himself some way (never count that out). Isn't that part of why Kennedy was assassinated?.

These are the globalists bitching and whining about his "attack" and "take over" of the Fed Reserve. All this around the same time Rothschild had the world currency planned for.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/trump-poised-to-take-control-of-the-federal-reserve.html

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-high-stakes-battle-between-donald-trump-and-the-fed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/27/why-is-trump-attacking-federal-reserve-we-answer-your-questions/

this one explains why the 2020 elections were rigged https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/11/trump-blasts-fed-for-being-wrong-so-often-and-says-2021-will-be-one-of-our-best-ever-years.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/trump-slams-federal-reserve-rate-hikes-breaking-tradition-n892831

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/trump-has-failed-to-take-control-of-the-federal-reserve.html

What you are seeing is the world central money printers, the same ones involved with the world economic forum that say you will own nothing and be their slave, attacking Trump for attempting to remove their control over the fruits of your labor. And desperately attempting to keep him from recovering the power to continue what he started.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A country being able to control their own currency has economic benefits. It's the reason why the Euro is sort of unstable, because countries that aren't doing well can't just debase their currency. If every city had their own currency, it would be even better, although it would require re-implementing every payment system in the world.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every politician bows to corporations and banks.

So why ban this one or cheer on his banning?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To get rid of the free people you must destroy the US and thus the constitution.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The same democrats who lie about an "insurrection" are the very same who are trying to remove people's right to vote in a democracy. They are what they accuse people of.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The iron law of woke projection never fails

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mm

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In the 1860s, there was territory to fight over. A defined region that two different governments wanted for themselves.

Today that's just... not the case. There's no reason to think that the U.S. military would be splitting into two militaries and fighting itself.

We'll get civil unrest and a smattering of domestic terrorism, but I just don't think civil war is on the table.

[–]yellowsnow2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It will be labelled under fraudulent terms as was Libya, Ukraine, Syria and all the rest of the CIA civil war regime change operations around the globe. It's their most effective trick..

They have created the divide. The BLM riots across the country was their failed attempt. A civil war/race war just looks silly if only one side shows up. They were sure if they tore down some confederate statues and had blacks burning down the country they would provoke an opposition of all these "white supremacists" they have labelled as the biggest threat to the country. But they don't exist. Now will be plan B or C or whatever they are on. They could have rigged the election less openly, but that was a provocation also. The corona lockdowns and tyranny furthered the divide also. Same with the open borders. There is no other reason for the migrant flood. Dem politicians are already talking of allowing illegal migrants to join the US army. Also Dems have been actively working them into the voting system already started on the community/county level elections. With the desire to go further when they can.

Prior to the 2014 Ukraine "civil war" the country was almost a full 50% people of ethnic Russian because Kiev was literally the original founding land of all the Kievan Rus ethnic peoples, and Kiev was also the capitol of the Russian empire for almost 1000 years way back in history. The first orders of the installed interim government was to kill all "Russian separatist". The US media helped establish this label. Luckily Putin militarily created a path for the ethnic Russian Ukrainians to escape genocide. What percent of Ukraine do you believe the country has of ethnic Russians now? See how easy a simple label was used to turn the country's military on it's own citizens and make a genocide look like a fight for freedom? Kind of like the media's label of insurrectionist.

You heard Syria was fighting a civil war to overthrow Assad. The US military and military troops of 16 other nations had invaded Syrian soil without permission to fight this "civil war" to overthrow Assad, but Trump jammed that up.. Some "civil war", the US actually captured and still militarily occupies a base on Syrian land today.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I hope none of you believe in this crap.

[–]yellowsnow2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You don't have to take my word for it, they have been open about their plans for a centralized world power for 70+ years.

How I learned to love the New World Order. by Joe Biden Wall Street Journal 1992. https://i.imgur.com/a4xGZc7.png PNG

Vice President Joe Biden calls for the creation of a "new world order" at the Export Import Bank conference in Washington on April 5, 2013. https://youtu.be/b1AMYHHAXhI YouTube

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." —Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." --David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion, Russians! or coronavirus!], whether real or promulgated [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." —Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all." --Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent. —Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976,

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Biden's rambling in the WSJ doesn't seem to be a threat. I only worry when people can communicate with great competence.

His 2013 speech is just directed at China, which has been challenging the world order. That's why there needs to a new "world order", to distinguish it from the world order that existed after WW2. So, it's not so much that Biden "planned" for the Chinese to challenge the US; it's just something that was bound to happen, because of the number of inhabitants of China (and India as well).

The strategy of the US is to have an many countries on the planet with free trade; one could argue that's a bad thing, but that's quite hard to do.

The US is comparatively extremely powerful still in this world and most countries do not have an active policy of removing Americans from let's say the European continent. I think the Europeans should be able to defend themselves and should not need any military support from the US (which right now they still very much do); most people with any clue would believe that, but European leadership is weak and stupid.

In the very long run, nation states should probably disappear. It's just that no good answer has been formulated as to how that should look like.

I think current democracies are very fragile and almost nothing is being done to strengthen them. It would for example be a good idea to have requirements on minimum levels of education or intelligence to enter parliament. Similarly, having links with e.g. Russia should be treason (like Orban).

[–]yellowsnow2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That is not what new world order means at all. That is the excuse/propaganda narrative because it has an esoteric and occult origination of meaning. Another century another great reset where we will own nothing and be slaves, those that aren't culled that is. As Klaus Swab openly said "we don't need most of you".. And as Swab's associate said we are moving into a post human age. The ruling parasite class openly admit to all of this to come when their utopian tanshumanist and genetic mutant abomination vision is in place. China is fully under their control. China and America's government worked hand in hand for years to create the Covid19 virus for this part of the transition phase. Which I have completely documented and sourced here, from the virus' initial success in weaponization in 2008, to all the grant money to refine it from there to names and grants...

https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comments/bhj2/our_government_funded_wuhan_covid_research_way/

Hunter Biden even was employed by China and paid millions to assist them in acquiring american stealth fighter tech (illegally) for their newest fighter jet, as I completely outlined here.

https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comments/bac7/every_american_or_allie_of_ours_killed_by_a/

The constitutional representative Republic is the best individual liberty based system available. But America and much of the English speaking world seem to have been deceived by decades of propaganda into thinking the word Fascism, as in the system of government, has anything to do with racism or nationalism. Mussolini , the namer and creator of the Fascist system of government, defined the system as a merging of state and corporate power. It is abundantly clear that all major western nations are Fascist systems of government brought about over the last 100 years by our ignorance of the history and reality of the state chartered monopolies that we call corporations. Historically these entities were just shell companies for the state/monarchy to control and own a monopoly while hiding it behind a degree of separation. They and the fractional reserve banking corporations are represented by the government politicians, not the people at all. They used these anti-captitolist monopoly systems to buy and subvert every government. Now they want to bring back the old god king systems of the past which they view as the "golden age".

[–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Klaus Swab

You should read one of his books one day. Trust me, there is nothing to fear about such a simple man. All he did was convince people to pay way too much money to get to his "forum". The only thing that proves is how stupid governments are for not just organizing something like that themselves.

I read the first of your covid papers again and the only thing that stood out for be was that they had poly-clonal anti-bodies, suggesting that they had the cure already in their possession, although perhaps not in great quantities.

I think I remain with my previous theory (I also responded in your thread 3 months ago), which is a conspiracy theory that the Chinese knew what they were dealing with, which suggests that either their labs are highly professional (unlikely) or more likely that there was a lab leak. Lab leaks have happened at least 3 times in history (the US had to admit to some of them), which adds further credibility to it. Finally, the fact that China didn't want anyone to investigate, suggests a further malicious intention of possibly a cover-up. AFAIK, some intelligence agencies in the US still assign a high probability to the lab leak theory.

I do understand that the reason they research these things officially is to enhance pandemic preparedness. I have the impression that as a biological weapon it wasn't that useful yet. Ironically, the funding also came from a European program to be better prepared against SARS-cov.

In the paper they claim to be using pseudoviruses. Did they actually use a live virus too? It is likely that they did animal testing with the live virus at some point (the point at which the science with just pseudoviruses is done and the only way to get more knowledge is to to extremely risky things like using a live virus, which would probably be done in a military lab based on the public science).

I think the lesson to be learned is that research into such matters is too risky to be done on Earth without extreme precautions and probably no human should ever be even allowed into such a facility.

[–]yellowsnow2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know the saying is don't take for malice what could be attributed to incompetence, or however it's said. But there are so many factors beyond the cover up, a wide range of them all for the world government transition. I think none of was by accident. And looking at the NIH grant list now they are funding Peter Hotez to work on the mersa covid.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How can we test whether your theories are correct if you don't make any testable predictions? The same research that you consider to be part of a conspiracy is also being used to improve biological knowledge.

Technology can be used for great evil (much more dangerous than the stuff you are discussing), so all I am seeing is amateurs at the practice of evil at worst. Perhaps someone out there is building a real biological weapon, but the truth is that humanity is just too stupid to build one. Let's say someone comes up with a way to wipe out a complete race of people (in so far as that is a genetic thing), what do you think happens to the people that aren't wiped out? Do you think they will happily go to sleep or do you think they might fear they are next? If you wipe out too many people, say bye bye to that teacher or that doctor (or the next microchip), because nobody would be left to get a specialized education (unless you were to replace the human race with robots, which isn't going to happen overnight).

So, can you please explain how this conspiracy is all going to play out in your mind? I think you have no answer to the above questions.

If there are any men behind the curtain, they surely must be aliens, because there is a huge incentive for humanity to get off this rock and exploit the universe for resources and what better way to do that to have a market of billions of potential customers. If there are no consumers left, what's the point? If you say 8 billion people is too much, how many should there be to still have humanity go to the stars in the long run? Every government that favors big companies favors policies that create more consumers, but here you are saying that they want to kill of lots of those same people? They can't have bigger profits and billions of dead consumers. Pick one.

There is a lot of documented evidence that lobbying takes place to have loose immigration laws from big corporations to make sure there is cheap labor and more consumers. For your assertions, there is no evidence. There is just a bunch of events and you see a pattern in that.

The value in making sure people do not die is still higher than to make sure they do die. This might change someday, but that day is not today.

Please address my points for a change.

Having said all that, I do find the data points you present interesting. If you are a bot, it's more advanced than I thought existed. I would rate you as human, so congratulations if you fooled me. In particular the ImPaKT facility uses technology I didn't know exist.

Like all technology the ImPaKT facility can be used for great evil as well as great progress, like apparently curing HIV, etc. I wish my local hospital had such equipment. Technology always improves (unless nuclear war), so what do you expect we should do? Should we draw the line and say "Guys, we now have enough technology. You can stop now."? Even if you could say that, it doesn't mean that other countries would ever respect that. So, I'd say there is no choice other than to move forward. This is ultimately what your concerns come down to. With enough technology (think having a miniature ImPaKT facility on your desk in 100 years) creating a superbug could be done by someone that had a bad school day. Wouldn't it be nice if someone did the research to protect against such a superbug in a secret government lab 50 years earlier?

While I doubt that today someone could build a superbug in the lab without the government figuring that out, 100 years is not that long to prepare, especially since defense is more difficult than offense. Have you really thought these things through?

Everything ultimately depends on your goals, but if survival of the human race is a good idea then I'd be in favor of doing such research on some space station far away from all life in a place that's shielded from asteroids.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The USA is too fat for a civil war.