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[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, I saw that the death stats were manipulated with anyone who died with COVID was counted as a COVID death, even if they got hit by a truck, but tested positive for COVID.

Early on the pandemic, that definition was used, and it is useful for tracking whether and where the disease was controlled or spreading.

But it's less useful for CBA of interventions, and gradually states changed to "died of COVID" from died with COVID". For instance: https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2020/05/16/colorado-changes-how-coronavirus-deaths-state-counted/5198485002/

The problem with that is the opposite. You get an undercount when people die at home.

But people also looked at total excess deaths to try to get a handle on the number of deaths of people who were never autopsied that died of COVID.

In the end it's always going to be an estimate, but a lot of people have put a lot of effort into making it an unbiased estimate.

Again, if those death stats aren't readily available, I question why.

There's less money for investigating the cause of death now that we've lost the war, and are just accepting that it will kill people each year like the flu does. The vaccine helps a lot with that, of course.

In include refusal in that so military, cops, government, corporations - they either outright fired people for refusal or found a way to get rid of them.

The safety of your other employees is important.

No one ever cared about the flu shot in the way they did about COVID and I find that suspect.

They guess the strain or a few strains of the flu shot each year. Some years it helps. Some years they miss. The Covid vaccine is 95% effective for the vaccines available now, and so has a real effect on deaths.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

See, this is the kind of civil dialogue that needed to happen vs. vilifying either side. Thanks!