Citigroup chose Obama’s 2008 cabinet, WikiLeaks document reveals

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[–]William_World 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

and CIA chose citibanks board

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This is a great response.

The "and" is key. Since 2008, there has been this subset of discourse where one side says "Government is bad!" and the other side says, "Corporate leadership is bad!" Each side wants their interpretation to be dominant, as though government OR corporate elite are the dominant evil.

Your response quickly cuts through that. The answer is YES. It's all the same people. They went to the same schools, they have the same networks, they sit on the same boards. This is what true oligarchy looks like, and this is what fascism IS. The merger of state and corporate power against individual autonomy.

We are being ruled by a mafia of corrupted men and women controlled by kompromat. That includes corporate, media, and government. Anybody working for a large organization is by default suspect.

You said it in 5 words. Look at the verbal diarrhea I have spouted that doesn't touch how well you just got the point across.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah I think the wikileaks thing was leaked on purpose as kind of a sign to the rich that their stocks won't go down in value or taxes won't be raised, like they figure if citibanks runs things for obama he would be alright for them, before that some republican news sources and politicians said Obama was a socialist! Voters heard that and hoped it was true and voted for him.

I find it funny that to this day you can go to the wiki page for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_International_Corporation

Where you see that number 1 Obama worked there and number 2 it was a CIA front.

[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

We are being ruled by a mafia of corrupted men and women controlled by kompromat. That includes corporate, media, and government.

 

I think the wikileaks thing was leaked on purpose

 
All part of limited hangout since they control the media, the news cycles and the mind gatekeepers - that's why there is never any real resolution:
They focus us on the problem to distract us from the solutions
 

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

solutions

I feel it reminds me of Winston thinking proles will rise up.

[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I feel it reminds me of Winston thinking proles will rise up.

What do you mean? The alternatives I listed in the link are all non-confrontational direct change ideas - no uprising/upheaval involved  

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

you're proposals are vague on purpose, all designed to get people to rise up which isn't happening, not without specific plans. I think you probably know too though that no organizing can be done on the internet.

[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

you're proposals are vague on purpose, all designed to get people to rise up which isn't happening, not without specific plans. I think you probably know too though that no organizing can be done on the internet.

 
All the elements I have listed/curated are actual lessons learnt from the past and the present. They are all working / workable pieces - each of them a verifiable success story in their own right.

 
With these put together, every community has the means for full communal self-determination.
Direct Co-opecratic Governance > indirect Corpocratic Governance
= Full spectrum, bottom-down power for usurpation-free Dom

 
My proposal right now is an invitation for people to join in the thought experiment for a consensus-based Co-opecratic Society.

 
It is this paradigm shift that must happen for social transformation.
The real revolution that must take place is in one's own mind, aggregatively.
 

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

good point

[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Everything boils down to this:
Absent a paradigm change,
indirect hierarchical systems perpetuate power concentration indefinitely...