Julius Caesar and Jesus as the same person. Could Jesus be a deification of Julius?

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Thanks for starting this discussion.

This makes literally zero sense. Julius Caesar was already considered a God within Rome's own Pantheon; the Roman Senate even declared him such in 42 BC, decades before Jesus was even born. There was no need to create a second religion for him. Even if they did, why would they so viciously prosecute it? It wasn't unti8l Constantine that Christianity was even legal.

The bust of Caesar in the Torlonia Museum resembles Jesus significantly.

No, it doesn't. There is not one authentic painting of Jesus (which is why I believe depictions of him to be heretical). The reason you might see a resemblance between Caesar and the various paintings claiming to be of the Christ is because a lot of them use random, Italian guys as a stand-in. Jesus probably wasn't even white, since he was from the Middle East; he probably looked similar to an Arab.

Both Julius Caesar and Jesus began their careers in northern countries: Caesar in Gaul, Jesus in Galilee

What? This sounds like a joke.

both cross a fatal river: the Rubicon and the Jordan;

I've crossed dozens of rivers hundreds of times in my life, but I ain't Jesus.

Caesar finds Corfinium occupied by a man of Pompey and besieges him, while Jesus finds a man possessed by an impure spirit. There is similarity in structure as well as in place names:

Again, sounds like a joke.

PEOPLE IN THE STORIES OF CAESAR AND OF JESUS ARE STRUCTURALLY THE SAME PEOPLE, EVEN BY NAME AND LOCATION:

This section is only half coherent, and again, sounds like a joke.

CAESAR’S MOST FAMOUS QUOTATIONS ARE FOUND IN THE GOSPELS – IN STRUCTURALLY SIGNIFICANT PLACES.

Jesus knew who Caesar was, so it wouldn't be surprising if he so quoted him, even word for word. If I quote Abraham Lincoln, that doesn't make me Abraham Lincoln.

THE EASTER LITURGY DOES NOT FOLLOW THE GOSPEL, BUT THE BURIAL RITUAL OF CAESAR

This contradicts section B.

Regardless, Christianity absorbed many pagan traditions and beliefs, so it wouldn't be surprising if this was true — but it doesn't prove Jesus was Caesar, it just proves that most contemporary sects and denominations are heretical. Just because Christians took the idea of a literal hell from Greek paganism doesn't mean Jesus is some Greek demigod. I don't recall ever attending an Easter liturgy, so I wouldn't know if this claim is even true to begin with.

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Christians took the idea of a literal hell from Greek paganism

From my understanding the modern idea of hell came from Dante's inferno.

Not familiar with what other branches of Christianity think hell is, but in Orthodoxy it is being away from the light of God.

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From my understanding the modern idea of hell came from Dante's inferno.

I think it was around before then, but regardless, he definitely took the idea from Greek mythology. There's a lot of other stuff he took from Greek paganism too.

Not familiar with what other branches of Christianity think hell is

The mainstream view is the Greek view of eternal torture. Some people are universalists, who think everyone goes to heaven. I'm an annihilationist, which means I believe evil people just die and cease to exist.