Julius Caesar and Jesus as the same person. Could Jesus be a deification of Julius?

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Thanks for starting this discussion.

This makes literally zero sense. Julius Caesar was already considered a God within Rome's own Pantheon; the Roman Senate even declared him such in 42 BC, decades before Jesus was even born. There was no need to create a second religion for him. Even if they did, why would they so viciously prosecute it? It wasn't unti8l Constantine that Christianity was even legal.

The bust of Caesar in the Torlonia Museum resembles Jesus significantly.

No, it doesn't. There is not one authentic painting of Jesus (which is why I believe depictions of him to be heretical). The reason you might see a resemblance between Caesar and the various paintings claiming to be of the Christ is because a lot of them use random, Italian guys as a stand-in. Jesus probably wasn't even white, since he was from the Middle East; he probably looked similar to an Arab.

Both Julius Caesar and Jesus began their careers in northern countries: Caesar in Gaul, Jesus in Galilee

What? This sounds like a joke.

both cross a fatal river: the Rubicon and the Jordan;

I've crossed dozens of rivers hundreds of times in my life, but I ain't Jesus.

Caesar finds Corfinium occupied by a man of Pompey and besieges him, while Jesus finds a man possessed by an impure spirit. There is similarity in structure as well as in place names:

Again, sounds like a joke.

PEOPLE IN THE STORIES OF CAESAR AND OF JESUS ARE STRUCTURALLY THE SAME PEOPLE, EVEN BY NAME AND LOCATION:

This section is only half coherent, and again, sounds like a joke.

CAESAR’S MOST FAMOUS QUOTATIONS ARE FOUND IN THE GOSPELS – IN STRUCTURALLY SIGNIFICANT PLACES.

Jesus knew who Caesar was, so it wouldn't be surprising if he so quoted him, even word for word. If I quote Abraham Lincoln, that doesn't make me Abraham Lincoln.

THE EASTER LITURGY DOES NOT FOLLOW THE GOSPEL, BUT THE BURIAL RITUAL OF CAESAR

This contradicts section B.

Regardless, Christianity absorbed many pagan traditions and beliefs, so it wouldn't be surprising if this was true — but it doesn't prove Jesus was Caesar, it just proves that most contemporary sects and denominations are heretical. Just because Christians took the idea of a literal hell from Greek paganism doesn't mean Jesus is some Greek demigod. I don't recall ever attending an Easter liturgy, so I wouldn't know if this claim is even true to begin with.

[–]Cass 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Christians took the idea of a literal hell from Greek paganism

From my understanding the modern idea of hell came from Dante's inferno.

Not familiar with what other branches of Christianity think hell is, but in Orthodoxy it is being away from the light of God.

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From my understanding the modern idea of hell came from Dante's inferno.

I think it was around before then, but regardless, he definitely took the idea from Greek mythology. There's a lot of other stuff he took from Greek paganism too.

Not familiar with what other branches of Christianity think hell is

The mainstream view is the Greek view of eternal torture. Some people are universalists, who think everyone goes to heaven. I'm an annihilationist, which means I believe evil people just die and cease to exist.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly, hibikiSS and Atwell are both pro-Pharisaism. They'd rather believe Jesus was fictional than believe the historical truth that both Romanism and Judaism strove to quell his spiritual revolution of rebirth.

The Talmud denigrates Him and Christians who loved and followed Christ's ways were persecuted and executed... for what? According to Hibiki, they were killed because they mistakingly, with all their heart, believed Jesus was the Messiah—to be worshipped in faith and to be followed—but due to cataracts, it was actually Ceasar who was Jesus, and they denied their true messiah Casear and were murdered for not following their true God, Caesar, who they denounced as a false God but were mistaken because Jesus was actually Caesar.

Lol

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Yeah it's pretty obvious a lot of Jesus is based on him. Also other myths though like hercules.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Jesus was Jesus and Popycarp and others were executed by Caesar for believing in Christ. Atwell is fine denigrating Christ but then claims modern Jews are blood related to Abraham, lmao!!!!

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Jesus couldn't have performed miracles, that was an idea they got from the roman's religion.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, it was reported by many people and it was allegorical as well.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Anyone with an ounce of knoweldge on this subject would know that masonry is opposed to Catholicism and Jesuitism, which was an order of the Church that spread the gospel to the 4 corners of the earth. Why then are rabbinates, masons, Marranos, Chabad-Lubavitchers and a Pope that hangs a painting in his office with the words: "to blot out His name forever," as Talmudic rabbis often proclaim; the modern heretics but certain owners of the Church? It is because, today, they control the church, not Catholics, let alone Catholic Jesuits. For Pope Bergoglio is a marrano.

This you have in common with the rabbis hibiki. A fervent hatred for Catholicism and a denial of Christ having ever walked on this earth. You'd rather believe in the kosher slaughter of the gospel—fairytales espoused by Joseph Atwell. This fellow Joseph, that you often quote, would have you believe that Jesus Christ never existed [even though Talmudic tests exist denigrating Christ] but that the Khazar Jewish woman that interviewed Atwell is a relative of Abraham ... As the rabbis say, and Pope Francis with his anti-Christ painting hanging at his office: "Yimach sh'mo v'zikhrono (May [Jesus'] name and memory be blotted out)”

Atwill wrote a book "Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus" but wait: the gospels confirm that Jews (not Christians) cried out "We have no King but Caesar"! The rabbis fail for 2000 years and on they fail! JESUS is not a "Jew" HE did not descend from the Pharisees nor was HE a member of the Serpent Cult called Judaism that derived from the Pharisees.

Mr. Atwill is self-described as being "Brilliant". Lucifer also was described thusly.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Chistianity is the most powerful religion in the world with billions of followers, so we should know about the origins of the same.

There are way too many similarities between the story of Julius and Jesus. Could it be that Jesus is actually a deification of him, with the whole thing being his or Constantine's psyop?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is the most broke.