Fire destroys the second largest hydroxychloroquine raw material supplier in the World. According to a fifteen year old study by the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH), Hydroxychloroquine is proven 100% effective at "obliterating" coronaviruses, within as little as six hours.

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[–]Lahontan 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

What I read is that the data going into the studies on hcq were flawed. Hcq early on in the infection was really effective, but they were using it later on when it wasn't nearly as effective and only reporting that.

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (35 children)

Yes, PEP (pre-exposure prophylactic) therapy with HCQ was the new goalpost that was created after it was shown to be ineffective with sick patients. Trumpers also started claiming it needed to be HCQ with specific combinations of other drugs. The follow-up studies examining the merits of those claims never panned out either. It turns out to just not be effective at fighting COVID-19 in general. Some studies suggest it can help a bit, but the majority don't show any effect at all.

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (34 children)

the disease is silent, until late. cns infection, lung symptoms occur after extensive myelin damage.

treatment then is too late, although IVM helps with remyelination.

cod liver oil, zinc & sunshine help fight at initial cns stage

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (33 children)

Lol, you natural remedy people are something else.

"Just get your vitamins and you can beat this deadly disease!"

[–]bobbobbybob 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (30 children)

Actually, this is one of my expert fields, being trained, qualified and published in the world of neurobiology.

so when I give a simple 'cure', it isn't pulled out of my arse, unlike the current "stick people on ventilators" treatment option, which has clearly emerged from some rancid shit hole.

I'm distilling expert knowledge on the actions/needs of glial cell' remyelination action, and a very deep knowledge of the privileged position of the CNS when it comes to immune responses.

the "vaccine" cannot work to prevent initial infection, as it is targeted at the immune system, which is highly restricted in its ability to act in the brain. There's other systems at play.

They need a source of omega-3 (the basic building blocks for rebuilding the myelin sheath), vitamin D3 (enables the glial cells to function at full speed through very complex interleukin based cascades that we don't fully understand) and zinc, which is another enabler of the glial cell's remyelination process.

IF you care to know more of the science, you can check the links I posted in /s/coronavirus which are links to peer reviewed, open publications (in major journals. one positive of the plandemic is that the whole field has been de-paywalled to enable research), on the CNS side of coronavirus infections, and histological evidence that covid-19 is indeed, a brainstem (medulla) demyelinating disease, with symptoms and treatments (ie invermectin) entirely consistent with demyelination / remyelination.

By the time the lungs start to fail, the virus has wrecked the brainstem areas that control breathing, and is migrating to the lungs via the autonomic nervous system to begin the release cycle of the infection. Death is close behind if the myelin promoting nutrients are not supplied really fast. Sunlight / vitamin D, zinc, omega-3, Invermectin (which, if you read the links, has been clearly shown to enable remyelination).

Leave any of the ingredients out (say, the omega-3) and the rest doesn't work. It takes understanding what is going on to be able to see why the trials are so hit and miss. How many trials control for omega-3? I'll tell you: none. That's why the data makes little sense to people who believe this is a lung infection.

t.neuroscientist.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

the "vaccine" cannot work to prevent initial infection, as it is targeted at the immune system, which is highly restricted in its ability to act in the brain. There's other systems at play.

Fake experts like yourself are so tiresome. To be approved for use the vaccines have to have shown to work in clinical trials. So are you saying of the ~7 vaccines coming down the pipeline over the next few months, all of them used fake data? Were FDA officials bribed?

And in a few months when deaths drop dramatically as those most in need receive their vaccines, followed by dropping rates of new cases as the general public gets inoculated, what will you have to say then?

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Why do you have so much blind faith in the "authorities" despite them being proven perpetual liars?

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Oh look, it's a question with a false premise. Par for the course from you.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

No. That's a legit question, and I'm seriously asking. Nothing false. I'm being honest. I'm legit curious. I'll ask again, FediNetizen:

Why do you have so much blind faith in the "authorities" despite them being proven perpetual liars?

Refusal to honestly answer it proves you're a shill with tired tactics to dodge authenticity.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There is no "blind faith" here. Major pharmaceuticals sell thousands of safe & clinically proven drugs with well-understood side effects. The FDA usually does a good job of vetting these drugs. That isn't always the case (Oxycontin's role in the opiate crisis comes to mind), but the last several decades have shown that they usually figure out how to put out a safe drug. Same with vaccines, which prevent the spread of deadly diseases and historically have had little to no side effects for the overwhelming majority of recipients.

The FDA & pharma companies in general aren't "proven perpetual liars". That's just a stupid narrative you've concocted in your paranoid, conspiracy-obsessed excuse for a brain.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (19 children)

I'm no 'fake' expert, and you could just read the link that I posted to expand your own knowledge.

Do you know what it takes for a vaccine to be called 'successful'? I'm guessing not.

The only measure of vaccine efficacy is antibody titre. A raised antibody titre means nothing for CNS diseases with a direct olfactory/optic infection route. You could go look up the science, but I guess you are comfy being spoon fed by a totally honest media.

And in a few months when deaths drop dramatically

you mean, when they stop reporting every death as 'covid'?

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Yes, you are. You are a quack. You claim the whole medical field has it wrong and that vaccines can't work. That is very stereotypical quack thinking.

And no, I mean when people stop dying. When total deaths per unit of time return to normal from the elevated levels they've been at since april. When people stop dying, and then when we stop getting new cases, which will happen when the population is innoculated.

And even after you're proven wrong I'm sure you'll just keep chugging along spewing your bullshit. Because that's what quacks do. They're basically incapable of self-reflection, and their heads are way too far up their own asses to take in what's happening around them.

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

You claim the whole medical field has it wrong

no, i don't. in fact I provided a whole lot of references from other experts.

that vaccines can't work.

I didn't say that. I said that they can't work in this particular case

cases and deaths are two different things. Very few people die of covid, and there is treatment for those at risk, as long as you understand what is actually killing them.

I know a lot of people like you. People who think the regurgitated propaganda they spew is any kind of replacement for actual knowledge, and who reject all expert voices that have not been authorised by the propaganda teat they suck upon.

People like you are always loud, always aggressive and always dumb as fuck

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1073858420956905

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

and who reject all expert voices that have not been authorised by the propaganda teat they suck upon.

You keep making claims to authority that you don't possess.

I reject people like Kurt Wise. You are the Kurt Wise of Coronaviruses. Tons of more qualified experts disagree with you, and the ones that disagree with you are the ones proving to be right.

You're trying to dismiss whole fields of more qualified experts here. You'll have to forgive me if I treat you like the joke that you are.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

"the whole medical field"

You are intentionally and IMO maliciously pretending there are not tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands or even millions) of doctors, nurses, scientists, and experts who are skeptically pushing back despite the corporate "mainstream" media's organized and mass DYNAMIC SILENCE.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I should have said the overwhelming consensus of the field or something, because both of you clowns are nitpicking this choice of words and it's really annoying.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

/s/cats/comments/71vr/sans_titre/

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"Just get your vitamins and you can beat this deadly disease!"

Worked for Japan?

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Fallacy.