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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah it's messed up, and I honestly don't know how there isn't national unity around fixing this issue. It seems the only thing preventing it from being fixed are over-powered police unions and police lobby, and corrupted justice systems, and a corporate media that keeps people divided by race rather than unifying to fix shared problems. The more clearly I see it, the more disturbing it becomes.

[–]hennaojichan[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Excuse the lag there. Not sure this is even relevant but over here the police have guns but they should be used only for self-defense. If a cop fires his gun it will be on the front page of every newspaper in the country the next day. And that cop had better have a very good excuse. I do not even remember one case where someone was shot and killed by the police. But there are lots of cases where, for example, four police go to a house to arrest someone and that person just runs away. The police can't shoot a person for running away or even if they see a robbery in progress. Of course, race is not an issue here and it is a different country.

I think you summed up the situation well but I do not see a quick solution.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

the recent raynard guy who was shot by cops, I ead the article on it, ok he was drunk in a drive thru, ok he attacked a cop and grabbed the taser, ok sounds bad, but he ran away and was shot twice in the back? Stops being self defense there doesn't it. Sucks to have to chase him on foot but sorry cops you have to do that not shoot. Guilty of murder here.

[–]Lithargoel 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Are you intentionally leaving out the facts verifiable by video, that Raynard not just attacked the cop, stole the taser, THE ENTIRE TIME IGNORING LAWFUL ORDERS TO STOP, then as he's running away TURNS AROUND and aims the stolen taser at the pursuing cops (which was also in the direction of the citizen vehicles in the drive-thru) AND FIRES IT? The cops are required by law to stop him by any and all means necessary at that point. Their lives and the lives of citizens were in danger. Tasers are AT BEST less-than-lethal. At worst, they have killed people. Officers are aware of this, and will respond as if it IS a lethal firearm.

[–]skiseme 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know if the cop would've been able to incapacitate him instead with less shots, but yeah, you can't just let someone do all this and then point your taser back at you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did miss that. I guess it is hard then to decide because it still seems reckless to shoot of 3 bullets for that, one missing and it could have hit someone innocent. So the cop might be let go for being not guilty, or it could be manslaughter, not sure here.