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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah it's messed up, and I honestly don't know how there isn't national unity around fixing this issue. It seems the only thing preventing it from being fixed are over-powered police unions and police lobby, and corrupted justice systems, and a corporate media that keeps people divided by race rather than unifying to fix shared problems. The more clearly I see it, the more disturbing it becomes.

[–]hennaojichan[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Excuse the lag there. Not sure this is even relevant but over here the police have guns but they should be used only for self-defense. If a cop fires his gun it will be on the front page of every newspaper in the country the next day. And that cop had better have a very good excuse. I do not even remember one case where someone was shot and killed by the police. But there are lots of cases where, for example, four police go to a house to arrest someone and that person just runs away. The police can't shoot a person for running away or even if they see a robbery in progress. Of course, race is not an issue here and it is a different country.

I think you summed up the situation well but I do not see a quick solution.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

the recent raynard guy who was shot by cops, I ead the article on it, ok he was drunk in a drive thru, ok he attacked a cop and grabbed the taser, ok sounds bad, but he ran away and was shot twice in the back? Stops being self defense there doesn't it. Sucks to have to chase him on foot but sorry cops you have to do that not shoot. Guilty of murder here.

[–]Lithargoel 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Are you intentionally leaving out the facts verifiable by video, that Raynard not just attacked the cop, stole the taser, THE ENTIRE TIME IGNORING LAWFUL ORDERS TO STOP, then as he's running away TURNS AROUND and aims the stolen taser at the pursuing cops (which was also in the direction of the citizen vehicles in the drive-thru) AND FIRES IT? The cops are required by law to stop him by any and all means necessary at that point. Their lives and the lives of citizens were in danger. Tasers are AT BEST less-than-lethal. At worst, they have killed people. Officers are aware of this, and will respond as if it IS a lethal firearm.

[–]skiseme 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know if the cop would've been able to incapacitate him instead with less shots, but yeah, you can't just let someone do all this and then point your taser back at you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did miss that. I guess it is hard then to decide because it still seems reckless to shoot of 3 bullets for that, one missing and it could have hit someone innocent. So the cop might be let go for being not guilty, or it could be manslaughter, not sure here.

[–]hennaojichan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also the white bum who was probably drunk too got about fifteen rounds for just bad-mouthing the cops so at least in that case there was no discrimination. I mean here: https://breakthematrix.com/homeless-lives-matter-white-homeless-man-executed-by-four-police-officers-at-bus-stop/ That shook me up and I will remember not to sleep on the sidewalk in the daytime. Shouldn't joke.

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That says he had a BB gun, well I think it is ok cops shot him, if he pulls a gun out of his pants and it looks like a regular gun. Not a good idea to do that with cops there. Sounds like they went overboard with 15 rounds into him. I do know cops should not be pulling out their gun and shooting it if not with intent to kill because it is a tool made for killing and should only be used when aabsolutely necessary. Maybe they felt 15 shots were needed to guarantee he was dead. But there is part of me thinking they did it for the surge of dopamine and for cold hearted fun because a good cop also will do 1 maybe two shots to the body and they are trained to be able to do that to take a perp down quick, unecessary shots can hit innocents or damage property and is just a waste and not recommended for any gun owner.

It sucks for homeless, they are often like that due to untreated mental issues. This guy clearly had issues. He shouldn't be on the streets where he can cause trouble he should be in an institution. Those got closed down because they mistreated people and gave lobotomies but they should have been reformed not shut down. Mental health is a legit need and there is no shame in anyone getting help.