Antifa International whining about being banned from Twitter for promoting domestic terrorism. Fled to Mastodon, of course. It is delicious seeing these pieces of shit get the treatment they have gleefully dished out to others. Literal justice.

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[–]handbananasrevenge 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (39 children)

How can you ban an idea? I was told by our benevolent overlords that Antifa is just an idea and there’s no organization behind it.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (29 children)

Antifa (antifascism) is an idea but US antifa is an organization, dude.

[–]SeethingPeasant 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

Antifa has been around for about 100 years, they have been apart of every communism/socialist usurping of the people's rights. They have a long history of using fascism to install fascism.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (18 children)

Antifa are NOT fascist they are communist organization, Learn the difference,

Fascism was born in Italy when Benito Mussolini was fed up with commies and beat them up then when he had critical mass of blackshirts he marched to Rome and the King of Italy appointed him as PM.

After US troops landed on Italian mainland Mussolini became vulnerable and Communist partisans lynched him.

[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

By any reasonable definition antifa are fascist. That is how they act. Those are the tactics and goals that define them.

[–]Alphix 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Although I generally agree with you on most things, you have your wires crossed on this one. COMMIES are the absolute antithesis of FASCISTS.

Communism is anti-family, anti-nationalism, anti-morality, anti-values, anti-excellence... Fascism is pro-family, pro-nationalism, pro-morality, pro-value, pro-excellence...

Are you still confused breh?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Niza pride.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

They are communist, not fascist. End of discussion.

Fascism is biggest evil despite communists being 100x more murderous and vile.

"Antifa are the real fascists" is the new "Democrats are real racists". Just quit.

Guess Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Mao and Lenin were also fascists...

[–]Canbot 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Define fascism.

[–][deleted]  (3 children)

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    [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    First off no government can be called revolutionary. That makes no sense. Revolutions are the radical changing of power. You can't just attach a word like that because it sounds cool.

    Second, nationalism is a rally cry and an identity. It says nothing of governance. Most communists recognize that you can't have communism and open borders. There has never been a communist country with open borders. Instead most have to have a strict ban on anyone even leaving, just to keep the slave workers from fleeing. Communists have stricter border controls than anyone, including "fascist" italy.

    attempts to merge marxist economics with traditionalist social politics.

    So like I said, it is just another marxist scam just like communism except with different propaganda.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    ^

    [–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    Shutting down free speech with violence is not fighting fascism. It IS fascism!

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Oh, that overly simplified joke where it's impossible to be placed into one of the quadarants? Yeah sure.

      [–]Alphix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Fascism lets speech be free, provided you don't attempt to undermine the people, the morals, the values, the policies, etc. that define the nation.

      In other words, Fascism is free speech, absent the communist subversion. What do you want? Freedom or communism?

      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      provided you don't attempt to undermine

      Subjective call made but assholes of the ruling class. Fuck that.

      Sometimes things need to be undermined. Fuck consumer culture. Fuck authoritarianism. Fuck over-regulation.

      Freedom is freedom, including the freedom to reject the status quo.

      [–]Alphix 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      OK commie.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Shutting down free speech with violence is not fighting fascism. It IS fascism!

      IFIFY:
      Shutting down free speech in any way is not fighting fascism or communism. It IS totalitarianism!

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      I prefer my totalitarianism with hot sauce and a squeeze of lemon.

      [–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Who cares? Commienazis all stink.

      [–]Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Antifa do not defend people's rights. They are all about crushing the will of the people. Their main goals are to attack grassroots organizing that could threaten big buisness. They go to rallies and attack people. They go to speaches and scream, and do anything they can to shut them down. They spam social media to silence people. They mass report accounts to get them shut down.

      They are literally the gustapo. They suppress the rights of people where the government can't.

      [–]Ethnocrat 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Stop insulting fascism you utter dunce. You have no idea what fascism is. Every time you insult fascism you're defending the Jewish elite and their lies.

      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      "Fascists" with proprietary definitions of "fascism" different from the contemporary understanding everyone else shares are no longer "fascists" - they're a group that desperately needs a new term and rebranding.

      [–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      JEWISH FUCKING PROPAGANDA has nothing to do with that in your imaginary world, amirite.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Being retarded earns you a block.

      [–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      A block? Of what... Bitcoin? Please make it Bitcoin!

      [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Why do you buy that ridiculous premise?

      You can literally spin anything that way. Christianity isn't an organization it is an idea. Just because some christians organize into churches and have pamphlets does not make christianity an organized religion. /s

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Yes, indeed Christianity is idea but Christians also organize into churches. I stand by that premise 100%.

      I oppose Antifa but what do I know...

      [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Again, you can call anything an idea by that logic. You have been tricked by the fascists who fund and organize those terrorist groups into supporting a convoluted agrument they put forward to protect thier terrorists from any pushback.

      [–][deleted]  (8 children)

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        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

        ^ socks the nigger

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Am I allowed to hate them because they masquerade as anarchists, but are in fact a fucking disgrace? Anarchists would never complain that 'there isn't enough censorship', and corporations + the state need to come and crack down on speech they don't agree with. They should drink battery acid

        [–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        They should be dealt with like any other terrorist group.

        [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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          [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          I've not seen or read about an anti-fascist who favored anarchy or censorship, both of which promote authoritarian models of governance, a.k.a., forms of fascism.

          The Antifa US movement. I don't think you understand the anarchist ideology. Most anarchists advocate for direct democracy without representatives. Today, in the U.S. antifa members primarily identify as anarchists, usually anarcho-communists specifically. Kropotkin's "conquest of bread" is the classic example of this ideology

          Anarcho-communism is a theory of anarchism that advocates a communist society with common ownership of the means of production,[95] direct democracy and a horizontal network of voluntary associations, workers' councils and worker cooperatives, with production and consumption based on the guiding principle "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."[96

          Heres some articles about anarchists and antifa

          https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/behind-the-black-bloc/

          https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-antifa-profile/

          They support democratic forms of leadership.

          Again, as do anarchists, which most antifa members claim to be.

          And yes, they promote censorship, and even violence against speakers of speech they dislike.

          https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/antifa-speech-free

          https://scholars.law.unlv.edu/nljforum/vol3/iss1/1/

          This is why right wing people call them fascists, which isn't that inaccurate, as you point out yourself that censorship is a tactic of fascist governments. Idk if thats quite right, but they are certainly a disgrace to anarchism

          [–]handbananasrevenge 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

          Ok Rabbi