you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]EternalSunset 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

The ancient greeks were what you would call "pagans". They were significantly more scientifically advanced than Dark Ages Europe would be nearly a thousand years. They developed much of the basic algebra and geometry you learned at school (Thales, Pythagoras, Euclid, etc...), measured the width of the Earth (Eratosthenes) and it's distance to the Sun with extreme accuracy (Aristarchus of Samos), estimated the stars in the sky to be at least 2 light years away (Aristarchus of Samos), drew the first heliocentric model millennia before Copernicus (Aristarchus of Samos, again), invented Calculus thousands of years before Newton (Archimedes), founded the first university outside of India (Plato's Academy), and they even built mechanical computers capable of predicting the motion of planets and moons thousands of years in advance (Antikythera mechanism).

It took a millenium and a half for the Renaissance to come and western science to crawl back at where it was before Christianity ruined the Roman Empire. If not for classical pagan culture the west would probably still be a backwards shithole to this day. But go ahead, hang on to your jewish god.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

One of the main reasons Christianity has superior outcomes to Islam is that it heavily borrowed from Greek philosophy.

[–]EternalSunset 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I agree that this is the case today, but there was a time when the muslims too borrowed much from the greeks; that time was known as the golden age of Islam, a period of rapid scientific and economic progress within the islamic world that lasted until the destruction of Baghdad by the Mongol Empire. In fact, much of what we still have preserved today of the ancient greek texts was recovered from arabic translations made by Avicenna.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I always wonder why, all the way up to the middle ages, they had literature going back tens of thousands of years...and then it all just vanished. Was there an effort to erase everything?

[–]EternalSunset 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's mostly from devastating wars and cultural shifts. Greek civilization never recovered from the diadochi wars and were eventually conquered by the romans. The romans decayed in power over the centuries due to their own wars of succession, corruption and innumerous barbarian invasions. Baghdad was thoroughly devastated by the mongols to such an extraordinary degree that one might say that in some ways it hasn't recovered from it to this day.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's the official narrative, therefore it is wrong.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Jet199 is a disinformation spreading long nosed agent

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Americans say u/Airbus320 is an Americans bot running spam agent.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Islam borrowed heavily from Christianity.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

😮

[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus is one of the prophets in Islam. They don't accept his divinity, but they accept his divine inspiration.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Islam acknowledged uncorrupted philosophy as a legit old religion, read Gazzali and others.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are comparing pagans to pagans and claiming to compare them to christians. Europe was pagan well into the 17th century when the king james bible was published, which really started the christian revolution.

Only then did europe begin to become the dominant force in the world intelectually, culturally, and militarily.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The church is literally the pagan infiltration of Christianity. Even before Constantine it was already trying to align with Rome, so together they could destroy all the "heretics" aka real believers.

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The mechanical computer you speak of predates greece by many millenia. And Christianity did not "ruin" the Roman Empire, it ruined itself out of dealing with the kikes. And it's the exact same thing happening nowadays with the West. I'll have nothing to do with kikedom if possible, thanks. I don't think what you call "a jewish god" applies at all. Mary was a descendant of the refugees from Canaan, not a kike.

[–]EternalSunset 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The mechanical computer you speak of predates greece by many millenia.

It is dated to the first century BC and was found on a shipwreck in the Augean filled with many other obviously greek artifacts.

I don't think what you call "a jewish god" applies at all. Mary was a descendant of the refugees from Canaan, not a kike.

The first half of the Bible is literally the Torah.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah and? I never wrote that the Jews didn't try to appropriate this religion too. Oh, by the way, maybe 5% MAXIMUM of the people mentioned in the Old Testament (or Torah if you prefer) can even by stretches of the imagination be considered to have been Jewish. Yes, the kikes appropriated that too.