Opinion: If you want to show that Jordan Peterson is wrong, you need to publish his book

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[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

He's just a traditionalist. Traditionalists are wrong about everything. If he knew what he was talking about in his motivational speeches, or self-help books then he wouldn't have ended up in rehab.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's about as bad of an argument as Mr. Finkledor has a Ph.D. in science, so he must be right about everything in science.

[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No, it's more like saying: Mr. Finkledor failed his PhD, so why is he giving PhD advice? Or: Finkledor is critical of everything that isn't a conspiracy theory.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's the part that I don't buy: just because you failed to do something doesn't mean you can't give valid advice. Peterson could have valid advice in his book then not follow it himself.

Why do you think there are fat P.E. and health teachers?

[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So if someone follows an ideology that is wrong about everything & that same person gives advice to people on how to live their life, but ends up in rehab after accruing success from their scam--I mean self-help book, what said person has to say is somehow still valuable?

The thing about traditionalism is that we are all intimately familiar with it already. We are all taught it all the time. There is no need of a teacher. We can already guess that he has issues with Tinder & believes that monogamy & the nuclear family are what our aims ought to be, because that's just textbook traditionalism. Traditionalism – the ideology that doesn't require a text book.

P.S. P.E. teachers? You probably meant to say: coaches.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't read the book, so I cannot comment on it.

P.S. I meant to say what I said.

[–]NiceDickBro 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don’t think people even know why they don’t like him, they’re just told to and go along with it.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's because when he came on the scene, it was to speak about Bill C-16 which would criminalize speech. He had studied the mechanics of tyranny extensively and he knew this was a big warning sign. When you start compelling people to say things they know are not true, it is a huge step down the road to darkness. Obviously this made him a lot of enemies.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He is controlled opposition. His role is to steer potential dissidents away from explicitly pro-white politics/the JQ, and towards kosher ancapism.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Juden Peterstein is the only alt-lite grifter who would get an endorsement from the Independent like this.

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I agree wholeheartedly with this article. I bought Peterson's book, and still haven't gotten through through the first chapter. Not because I was disgusted or anything, but because the advice seems pretty straightforward and not particularly engaging to me. The guy isn't a devil, nor is he a saint. He's an intelligent man who appeals to a lot of people who are going through issues in their lives. It's a far better exercise to engage with the question of why this is the case rather than try to shut him and his enthusiasts down. However, it seems the self-anointed intelligentsia has decreed that critical inquiry is far too important to allow the rabble access.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The thing with people who read his books and shake their heads, like you, is you're already sorted. Tons and tons of people in our world were thrown into adulthood without any preparation. The chain was broken. JBP is for these people. They really need his guidance bad because they're hurting.

The opposition to JBP knows this quite well and wants these people to go on hurting. It's the whole point!

[–]horatioherbert 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed! A healthy society employs every method for vibrant, robust work and an educated citizenry. I am not saying the government should do this I am saying the social agreement among healthy people in a healthy society should encourage these things and it doesn't appear that way anymore. Society is paralyzing such inspirational attributes.

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agreed. The irony of this is the censors are probably the ones who could get the most help from his advice.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sadly, all too true. His message is especially felt by people who are lost, and that describes much of the SJW left. They are miserable people suffering every day, and forcing others to suffer with them.

[–]soyboy77 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well yeah, let's discuss not suppress...