I just wanna say... FUCK YOUTUBE! I was watching a live video from a conservative black lady dropping truth bombs, and less than 7 minutes in, they cancelled it saying: "This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Terms of Service." Bull. Fucking. Shit. Fuck you, YouTube. Your CEO is a cunt.

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[–]Cass 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Googled her and the liberal media is calling her a GADFLY https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/women-who-painted-over-nyc-fifth-ave-black-lives-matter-mural-identified-as-right-wing-gadflies/ar-BB16VWmm

Can you imagine the reaction if they called one of the BLM founders a gadfly?

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

That's surprising because I always identified as a gadfly and thought it was a good thing. That term comes from Socrates, who was killed for stating painful facts that the elites of Greece didn't want to hear. He taught Plato.

[–]Brokinnoggin 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Yeah it basically means provocateur. I think at the time it's literal translation was "fast spike" or some shit. A jab in the ribs. Now simply disagreeing with the group think hive mind is enough to be outcast and the pseudo-intellectuals lapping this shit up think that using words like that discredits their opponents.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

it's a type of fly that bothers a horse, Socrates compared himself to one because they had him on trial for dissenting opinions and he was saying that yes he was annoying but not so bad it would destroy society like they were making it out to be, the fly annoys the horse but can't kill it. If I remember correctly socrates had great sarcasm, someone in the jury asked him what he thought his punishment should be and he replied they should pay him to keep being a gadfly because it is good for society. They then sentenced him to have to commit suicide

[–]Brokinnoggin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Ah fair enough. I recall a "Gad" being a type of short bladed weapon so perhaps that was where I mistook it. Unless the Gladfly being a major pain in the arse got its name from that as well. Socrates suicide might be one of the most poetic things to ever happen in history.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I haven't heard of a gad being a blade, maybe if it is a short blade it is considered not as big a deal as a larger sword so someone might say it's just a gad blade, a minor annoyance compared to a large sword which will kill you? Not sure.

[–]Brokinnoggin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've heard of it being either a really short blade, spike or even a particularly nasty stick. Maybe its just a colloquialism though?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

yeah I just googled it looks like in socrates time they said something else but in translations it is gadfly a norse, or german word.

gadfly (n.)

also gad-fly, 1620s, "fly which bites cattle," probably from gad (n.) "goad, metal rod," here in the sense of "stinger;" but the sense is entangled with gad (v.) "rove about" (on the notion, perhaps, of the insect's power of flight or of the restlessness of animals plagued by them), and another early meaning of gadfly was "someone who likes to go about, often stopping here and there" (1610s). Sense of "one who irritates another" is from 1640s (equivalent of Latin oestrus; see estrus). "In strictness, only the females are gadflies, the males being smaller and quite inoffensive, living on juices of plants" [Century Dictionary]. Earlier bot-fly, from bot "skin parasite" (late 15c.).

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Josh+Gad

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'd love to see a contemporary adaptation of Socrate's trial somehow - kind of like how they remake Shakespeare modern.

Or they could set Socrates in Shakespeare's time, or make him a Renaissance man, or a 50s/60s Rebel With A Cause.

Of course they'd sanitize and water it down instead of authentically speaking trutherisms to power.

[–]Brokinnoggin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I want to see The Republic made into a 10hr feature film in all its gritty sometimes meandering detail. If we can get that of a fucken midget throwing a ring into a cranky mountain surely one of the founding philosophical texts can be done?

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Brobdingnagian Brokingnoggin, I agree, the story should be retold. I looked for my water damaged university copy of The Republic last year but couldn't find it. My little Symposium is missing too. I guess I lent or gave them away.

[–]Brokinnoggin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I bought a hardcover copy that I keep on my shelf. I read it prior to beginning a Social Work degree and quickly realised that none of those fuckers could define justice much less work towards it. I cited the discussion between Socrates and Glaucon as an argument against their idea's of what justice is and how it works, but all they kept coming back with was "we need to change this". Like, fucking how? Wide spread armed insurrection? No, capital funding from the wealthy that have vested interests in keeping the masses placated, just as Socrates and Claucon discussed.... Useful idiots the lot of them.

Edit: I quickly moved over to psychological sciences, so I could actually be useful...

Fuck that was a decent old 7am rant..

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Good rant!

I don't recall hearing anything about psychological sciences and can only guess at what's actually behind the name. Care to give a brief description? I was never into anything remotely related until I started getting deep into conspiracy theories, the deep state, psyops, propaganda, and the arts of persuasion, manipulation, deception, exploitation, and extermination via Machiavellianism, or basically: the levers of power and control.

[–]slushpilot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting how this article reframes their protest of the BLM mural as a completely different protest (because these women protested abortion before, so you should judge this based on that).

How dishonest. Do not trust the media.