Breaking: YouTube Takes Down Tucker Carlson’s Video Connecting Terrorist Susan Rosenberg to BLM

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[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Really? Got a source on that?

[–]sproketboy 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/business/media/tucker-carlson-writer-blake-neff.html

Giving you a MSM link

[–]magnora7 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Thanks, I wish I could read the whole article without giving them my identity though...

I found one everyone can read: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/media/tucker-carlson-writer-blake-neff/index.html

So basically they found out a hidden online username of the writer, dug through years of posts, and then the worst they could find they're firing him over it. Some of it is pretty bad, but this also seems like cancel culture destroying more targets they don't like. However some of the stuff the guy said is pretty cringey. Nothing violent though. How did they figure out this guy's pseudonym in the first place though? And no one seemed to care to dig in to this until the guy got popular enough to be worth taking down.

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

It's just wild to think that if Soros was being challenged by Tucker, he could just hire a few people to investigate Tucker staff, dig up some dirt like this, then create a public controversy out of it, and get him fired.

But also at the same time if the guy hadn't said those things in the first place then there would be nothing to dig up... so there's some that falls on both sides of this thing

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

But so what? I don't understand why in the USA you can get fired from your job for things you do ON YOUR OWN TIME. Here in Canada we have laws about this: If you do objectionable or illegal things while on the job, that's one thing, but what you do while off the job is entirely yours, individually and personally, and your employer can't do anything to you about it.

You could literally work for the ADL during the day, and sing SIEG HEIL continuously while being off duty and they could never fire you for it.

Oh, right. You guys have "Freedom of speech" in your constitution, and we don't. That would explain it... ;-)

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah I agree it shouldn't matter either. I think it intensified with drug tests, which were mandated by insurance companies, because health insurance in the US goes through the employer. So the companies, through the insurance companies, demanded drug tests from everyone. Which meant that off-time wasn't fully in your control anymore.

Employees being a reflection of the company they work for has always been a thing though, and I imagine Tucker isn't too happy about how this make him or his show look, especially at this critical moment for him.

But I agree, he used a pseudonym for a reason... I find it disturbing a person can be fired for what were supposed to be anonymous comments made while he was off the job. Comments that weren't even violent and didn't break any US law.

But ultimately it's a PR game, and they're in the business of PR, and the office politics make sense that he has to go for the organization to remain dignified-looking to the public.

US "free speech" only really protects from the government, unfortunately. If he had a gov't job, he probably wouldn't have gotten fired. Corporations aren't really bound by much in the US, and that's the main problem. It's dog-eat-dog monarchy-style organizations in the American corporate world. If you make the king unhappy, you are banished. That's usually how it works. This guy made Tucker (and his news station by extension) look real bad, so now he's gone. It's all about the optics. Which is why those who can shout the loudest have such a disproportionate amount of power in this culture. "The customer is always right" and for Tucker his customers are viewers and ad agencies that don't want to be associated with the antics shown by this writer.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Pretty insane system you got there.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean half of it is just human nature, and the other half is a workplace that has no protections for employees.

It's a giant industry farm, just like china. Yet somehow most people are content to work within it. I can't say I really understand the mentality. Everyone is a "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" as Steinbeck put it, just waiting for their chance to make it rich.

It's really the same everywhere in the world to varying degrees, but in the US they've perfected it to a science and made it the cultural norm.

[–]sproketboy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude Cancel Culture works just as well here in Canada.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are similar protections in Europe. I can understand firing somebody if they are a public face of the company. For example, if your name is on the product, you speak publicly for the company, or if you link yourself to the company on the platform in question (e.g. mentioning your employer in your bio). Just a random person in a company should not be fired, even if they get doxed, this revealing their connection.

It can get more complex. That example working for the ADL while having Nazi appreciation as a hobby would be a problem. There are things we might do outside of work that makes a job untenable.

[–]Iam1ofMany 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that has less to do with our Freedom of Speech and more to do with are Employment at Will. A company doesn't need to have a good reason to fire you. If you are the best there ever was at your job they can still let you go if they think it causes a distraction at their work place.

[–]Truth_about_trees 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What are these laws called and they should definitely apply to teachers if they exist! It's nonsense that so many right leaning teachers have voices silenced because questioning Emperor Justinian (or stating that you don't like him) can get you fires (like in Ontario).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow that is BS indeed. But government workers are something else, especially schoolteachers. I mean we have drag queen story hour in Ontario now. Such a sad state of affairs.

[–]wormbloat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so why wouldn't he just deny is was him? it was an anonymous account. What proof did they have? People need to stop dignifying this doxxers with a response and acknowledgment