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[–]magnora7 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Uh oh, the MSM limited hangout is starting to say things that matter. Watch him get shut down or neutered somehow in the next couple weeks

[–]oneinchterror 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

He already has been. His head writer was just doxxed and forced to resign for posting edgy comments online.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Really? Got a source on that?

[–]sproketboy 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

[–]magnora7 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Thanks, I wish I could read the whole article without giving them my identity though...

I found one everyone can read: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/media/tucker-carlson-writer-blake-neff/index.html

So basically they found out a hidden online username of the writer, dug through years of posts, and then the worst they could find they're firing him over it. Some of it is pretty bad, but this also seems like cancel culture destroying more targets they don't like. However some of the stuff the guy said is pretty cringey. Nothing violent though. How did they figure out this guy's pseudonym in the first place though? And no one seemed to care to dig in to this until the guy got popular enough to be worth taking down.

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

It's just wild to think that if Soros was being challenged by Tucker, he could just hire a few people to investigate Tucker staff, dig up some dirt like this, then create a public controversy out of it, and get him fired.

But also at the same time if the guy hadn't said those things in the first place then there would be nothing to dig up... so there's some that falls on both sides of this thing

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

But so what? I don't understand why in the USA you can get fired from your job for things you do ON YOUR OWN TIME. Here in Canada we have laws about this: If you do objectionable or illegal things while on the job, that's one thing, but what you do while off the job is entirely yours, individually and personally, and your employer can't do anything to you about it.

You could literally work for the ADL during the day, and sing SIEG HEIL continuously while being off duty and they could never fire you for it.

Oh, right. You guys have "Freedom of speech" in your constitution, and we don't. That would explain it... ;-)

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah I agree it shouldn't matter either. I think it intensified with drug tests, which were mandated by insurance companies, because health insurance in the US goes through the employer. So the companies, through the insurance companies, demanded drug tests from everyone. Which meant that off-time wasn't fully in your control anymore.

Employees being a reflection of the company they work for has always been a thing though, and I imagine Tucker isn't too happy about how this make him or his show look, especially at this critical moment for him.

But I agree, he used a pseudonym for a reason... I find it disturbing a person can be fired for what were supposed to be anonymous comments made while he was off the job. Comments that weren't even violent and didn't break any US law.

But ultimately it's a PR game, and they're in the business of PR, and the office politics make sense that he has to go for the organization to remain dignified-looking to the public.

US "free speech" only really protects from the government, unfortunately. If he had a gov't job, he probably wouldn't have gotten fired. Corporations aren't really bound by much in the US, and that's the main problem. It's dog-eat-dog monarchy-style organizations in the American corporate world. If you make the king unhappy, you are banished. That's usually how it works. This guy made Tucker (and his news station by extension) look real bad, so now he's gone. It's all about the optics. Which is why those who can shout the loudest have such a disproportionate amount of power in this culture. "The customer is always right" and for Tucker his customers are viewers and ad agencies that don't want to be associated with the antics shown by this writer.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Pretty insane system you got there.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean half of it is just human nature, and the other half is a workplace that has no protections for employees.

It's a giant industry farm, just like china. Yet somehow most people are content to work within it. I can't say I really understand the mentality. Everyone is a "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" as Steinbeck put it, just waiting for their chance to make it rich.

It's really the same everywhere in the world to varying degrees, but in the US they've perfected it to a science and made it the cultural norm.

[–]sproketboy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude Cancel Culture works just as well here in Canada.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are similar protections in Europe. I can understand firing somebody if they are a public face of the company. For example, if your name is on the product, you speak publicly for the company, or if you link yourself to the company on the platform in question (e.g. mentioning your employer in your bio). Just a random person in a company should not be fired, even if they get doxed, this revealing their connection.

It can get more complex. That example working for the ADL while having Nazi appreciation as a hobby would be a problem. There are things we might do outside of work that makes a job untenable.

[–]Iam1ofMany 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that has less to do with our Freedom of Speech and more to do with are Employment at Will. A company doesn't need to have a good reason to fire you. If you are the best there ever was at your job they can still let you go if they think it causes a distraction at their work place.

[–]Truth_about_trees 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What are these laws called and they should definitely apply to teachers if they exist! It's nonsense that so many right leaning teachers have voices silenced because questioning Emperor Justinian (or stating that you don't like him) can get you fires (like in Ontario).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow that is BS indeed. But government workers are something else, especially schoolteachers. I mean we have drag queen story hour in Ontario now. Such a sad state of affairs.

[–]wormbloat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so why wouldn't he just deny is was him? it was an anonymous account. What proof did they have? People need to stop dignifying this doxxers with a response and acknowledgment

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This seems to be part of an ongoing agenda. There are even stories locally that I suspect are PsyOps. Basically, either some anon digs up somethig someone said or wrote many, many years ago, whether it be racist or "anti-Semitic"— they providing little evidence for their claims — the person blamed steps down or self-censors and loses his/her job.

The esoteric meaning behind these stories concerns: Self-censorship; self-censoring yourself for fear of being caught for saying something now that could be used against you 40 years later and repercussions of spoken and written word. That you can lose your job and your career for simply saying something many years ago, even if there isn't any evidence.

I suspect those blamed are part of the PsyOp.

[–]whistlepig 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The weird thing is why he admitted to it so readily... It would be good to know why he didn't think plausible deniability was an option.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah good question, how did they even discover it was his in the first place? How did they link the account with this person? It must've been pretty clear where he felt there was no plausible deniability.

Which makes me wonder if they did IP tracing on those comments and tied it to his name, which would imply a gov't investigation, would it not? They'd have to get the IP from that website, as well as the IP of this person from the ISPs.

It's either that, or some of his comment were things that gave away his identity... like he posted something about him being a writer for tucker.

But the article doesn't seem to specify by which method he was figured out. I would really like to know the truth on this aspect of it.

[–]sproketboy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

bitchute link?

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Tucker Carlson is an avid supporter of Netanyahu. A Likudnik terrorist and one of the masterminds behiind 9/11. Tucker worked for NEOCON PNACER Bill Kristols paper back in the 90's called 'The Weekly Standard', now defunct where he shilled for war in Iraq, called for the obliteration of Iran and proteced and covered-up Elliot Abrams role in the Iran COntra affair.

[–]Truth_about_trees 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Should we hate Tucker now? Did he change?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, he didn't change. Netanyahu thanked him on Twitter no less than a year ago for his support for Israel and the Likud. The same "Jewish" Zionsit terror group that orchestrated 9/11 and ethnicly cleanses the Palestinian people. Tucker fails the 9/11 litmus test and pushes conservative PsyOps for the right-wing mind. TYou think having Tucker interview a plant talk about how men should breast feed their children is not a set up meant to divide and confuse viewers with perception managemen? That is exactly what it is! Tucker worked for Trotskyites in the 90's for years shilling the neoconservative doctrine, as did his father for VoA. Have in mind this:

https://files.catbox.moe/i3ul77.PNG

The Likud and ZioCons are not communists they are theocratic fascists and not the good kind of fascist. All they care about is Zionism and Jewish nationalism at all costs. Bankers lile Seligman are examples of this mindset. Financing right wing clerical fascist groups to oust and murder those that are NOT so hard on communism like JFK.

It isn't that communism, like the Bolsheviks will take over the country, they are not dumb enough to try that again, it is just that it is being used as the scapegoat to push people further to the right and thus towards the Likudnik doctrine of nationalism at the expense of the founders creed of free trade and nationalism for the people and public welfare.

[–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't exactly understand the types who are into hero worship and the opposite habit that you are illustrating.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He works for the enemy of the republic; always has. The best way to control your opposition is to lead it. Oh, and get paid a large sum for it!