Majority of gender-confused children grow out of it by adulthood: Netherlands study

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[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

So, to me, the question isn't "should I put my kid on puberty blockers." The answer is no. He's a boy and he's never shown any sign of anything else.

To me, the question is: who decides.

My position on that has always been clear (and honestly I don't even know whether this is a liberal or a conservative position anymore): my son belongs to my wife and me. We decide what's best for him. He doesn't belong to the Federal Government of the United States of America. He doesn't belong to the State of Nevada. He belongs to us.

So if there ever comes a time when I know in my heart he needs or doesn't need something - whether that's puberty blockers, whether it's vaccinations, whether it's psychotherapy, any of a thousand things - you know who I want to be in charge of that decision?

If you said "some state senator trying to shore up voter turnout among his base," well, you were wrong.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

100% agreed. I don't think medical decisions should ever be up to the government/state. And in the example I gave, the child wasn't in on the decision, the parent's just made it (based on their doctor's opinion, and I think with all the love and care for their child they had, just not all the information that was available). I don't think children are capable of making those decisions and shouldn't until they are old/mature enough to do so. It's our job to protect them, even from themselves.

[–]Titanic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

I think if you are a fag abusing your kid with chemicals to destroy their puberty, you should be thrown in jail by force and your kid should be protected by the state.

Your right to decide for your kid what health procedures they get is not at ALL absolute. If you start blocking their puberty and mutilating their body, the state can and will take you away. And they should.

u/hematomato, if your boy thinks he's a lady from the first instance of his life, that means nothing. It just means he's a delusionally psychotic boy.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I think if you are a fag abusing your kid with chemicals to destroy their puberty, you should be thrown in jail by force

I mean... cool? I personally think that we should throw fewer people in jail by force, but I'm guessing that if the U.S. adopts a "throw more people in jail" policy, you'll be one of the first against the wall.

u/hematomato, if your boy thinks he's a lady from the first instance of his life, that means nothing. It just means he's a delusionally psychotic boy.

And sometimes the recommendation is to play along with a delusion. For example, with people with Alzheimer's, it's not typically recommended to say "No, that's wrong, it's not thirty years ago." It's easier on the patient if you just play along.

Sometimes when you love someone, you prioritize what's helpful to them over what you believe to be true.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Lying to a child will lead to them to mutilate themselves.

Also, it's never OK to lie.

Finally, most kids grow out of gender dysphoria unless you chemically abuse them. The dysphoria is the problem, and the drugs make it worse I heard somewhere

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Also, it's never OK to lie.

Really? Are you a strict deontologist or something?

Personally I think if armed goons come to the door and say "Are you harboring any dissenters," it's fine to say no.

And if a woman says "Do I look fat in these jeans," you just say "of course not."

And if someone you love needs you to go along with a lie in order to be happy, well, you can grind their face into the dirt in service of integrity, but what does that get you at the end of the day?

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

I go with natural law morality. It's the only one that works with or without God, and the only one tht has an objective basis.

Where does it get me? Well, putting my kid on the transgender path makes me partly responsible for his future suicide. 41%.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

No, it's much more likely to get you a dead son. When a kid says "I need to transition" and a parent says "you're just a delusionally psychotic boy," suicide becomes very likely.

It might shock you to learn that kids take it pretty hard when their parents don't respect them and tell them they're delusionally psychotic.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Any statistic to back that up?

Anyway, even if it were true that refusing to mutilate my son would lead to his suicide, that doesn't make it OK. Robbing a bank to feed your family isn't Ok, so mutilating your son to cheer him up isn't either.

At least when he still has his balls and cock he can always change his mind.

And without his balls and cock, he's still a boy. Just an insane, mutilated one. Sex change is IMPOSSIBLE. I'd drill it into him:

"You are a man. You can never be a lady. Ever. No matter how badly you hurt your bits, Christ will resurrect you as a man at the end of time. It is futile. You will never, ever get this wish."

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Any statistic to back that up?

How do you compile statistics on that? But isn't it common sense? Maybe you don't have kids, but you've been a kid, right? You can imagine what rejection by your parents feel like? If your parents make it clear that they don't believe you and don't respect you and are kind of disgusted by you - well, fuck, you'd have to be pretty autistic to not be able to understand what that would feel like.

Robbing a bank to feed your family isn't Ok

We don't agree at all. If my kid is starving, and I've exhausted all other options, you bet your ass I'm robbing a bank.

Christ will resurrect you as a man at the end of time.

And this is where atheists come from. When your dad starts ranting non-Biblical stuff about how his god agrees with him, kids think: obviously this religion is bullshit.