Majority of gender-confused children grow out of it by adulthood: Netherlands study

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[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

No, it's much more likely to get you a dead son. When a kid says "I need to transition" and a parent says "you're just a delusionally psychotic boy," suicide becomes very likely.

It might shock you to learn that kids take it pretty hard when their parents don't respect them and tell them they're delusionally psychotic.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Any statistic to back that up?

Anyway, even if it were true that refusing to mutilate my son would lead to his suicide, that doesn't make it OK. Robbing a bank to feed your family isn't Ok, so mutilating your son to cheer him up isn't either.

At least when he still has his balls and cock he can always change his mind.

And without his balls and cock, he's still a boy. Just an insane, mutilated one. Sex change is IMPOSSIBLE. I'd drill it into him:

"You are a man. You can never be a lady. Ever. No matter how badly you hurt your bits, Christ will resurrect you as a man at the end of time. It is futile. You will never, ever get this wish."

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Any statistic to back that up?

How do you compile statistics on that? But isn't it common sense? Maybe you don't have kids, but you've been a kid, right? You can imagine what rejection by your parents feel like? If your parents make it clear that they don't believe you and don't respect you and are kind of disgusted by you - well, fuck, you'd have to be pretty autistic to not be able to understand what that would feel like.

Robbing a bank to feed your family isn't Ok

We don't agree at all. If my kid is starving, and I've exhausted all other options, you bet your ass I'm robbing a bank.

Christ will resurrect you as a man at the end of time.

And this is where atheists come from. When your dad starts ranting non-Biblical stuff about how his god agrees with him, kids think: obviously this religion is bullshit.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

This is where atheists come from.

I admire atheists. I hate TRA's.

pretty autistic

No need for an ad hominem. That said this is why I'd tell him he's "mentally ill" rather than "disgusting."

you bet your ass I'm robbing a bank.

Don't drop the soap.

unbiblical

Maiming yourself for a fetish or to satisfy a delusion isn't the same as surgery. Therefore it is "doing evil that good may come of it.", and it biblical.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

That said this is why I'd tell him he's "mentally ill" rather than "disgusting."

Really not much better, and if you feel disgusted, your kid is going to know.

Don't drop the soap.

You know, getting ass-raped is a small price to pay for not letting my family starve.

Therefore it is "doing evil that good may come of it.", and it biblical

I'd encourage you to read Matthew 22. Or even specifically Matthew 22:30: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven."

In other words, God isn't resurrecting us with our dick and balls and sexual urges and a wife. Chances are, we don't have anything we'd recognize as "gender".

Romans 3 is about how a lie in service of spreading Christianity is unacceptable. It isn't some Kantian declaration that all lies are reprehensible.

And then you've got Ephesians 4:29: "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen."

...only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs.

Which is probably not "You're mentally ill and delusional, kid."

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

In other words, God isn't resurrecting us with our dick and balls and sexual urges and a wife. Chances are, we don't have anything we'd recognize as "gender".

The dick and balls will still be there, only they will merely never get used.

By the way, the pope agrees with me about the mutilation thing, he just wrote a document about how wrong it is.

Really not much better, and if you feel disgusted, your kid is going to know.

No, I'll just tell him he's sick but we love him so we're going to the doctor to help.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

By the way, the pope agrees with me about the mutilation thing, he just wrote a document about how wrong it is.

Yeah, the Pope always lags about a century behind the culture. That's why Pope Francis is the first Pope to ever say "Well I guess it's okay to use condoms in some circumstances."

No, I'll just tell him he's sick but we love him so we're going to the doctor to help.

Do you think doctors are wizards? If there were any known cure for gender dysphoria, everyone would take it. But there isn't.

And that's not for lack of trying. Trans people have been subjected to talk therapy, every kind of medication, behaviorism, aversion therapy, electroshock, lobotomy. Nothing has worked.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

What about exorcism? Has anyone tried that? That might work.

Anyways, mutilating yourself to cheer yourself up doesn't count as real surgery any more than a lobotomy for depression does, so it's not justified.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What about exorcism? Has anyone tried that?

Of course.

Anyways, mutilating yourself to cheer yourself up doesn't count as real surgery any more than a lobotomy for depression does, so it's not justified.

Despite the bizarre claim that it "doesn't count," it's the treatment with the best observed outcomes.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

A REAL exorcism, not the garbage those protestants do. I mean the real thing.

observed outcomes

It's "outcome" is destroyed genitals.

It doesn't fix the gender dysphoria. The brain is still completely sick. The body is still male.

It doesn't fix the brain or body, it gives in to the persons demented fetish/delusion.

If a schizophrenic says their arm wants to kill them so they should chop it off, chopping it off to calm them down is not surgery, it's caving to their dangerous delusion and committing an act of grave bodily harm against the mentally disabled.