Israel's Western-backed genocide of Gazans will incite hostility against Jews around the world

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[–]HiddenFox 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (48 children)

I feel Israel is losing a lot of support over this. I agree they need to deal with Hamas but killing some 8000+ people in Gaza is not the solution. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the 8000 people did not participate in the October attack.

What Hamas did was horrible but that doesn't give Israel the right to blindly take revenge. By pushing this course Israel risks losing the support of the west. If they do lose that support I don't believe Israel would last very long.

[–]brimshae 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree they need to deal with Hamas but killing some 8000+ people in Gaza is not the solution. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the 8000 people did not participate in the October attack.

"Well, if those people who already had their houses blown up didn't want to be blown up they shouldn't have been human shields." -People defending the supposed good guys lately

[–]ID10T 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

The issue is Hamas' main defensive strategy is using human shields. Putting their headquarters in a hospital, etc. They count on this reaction.

[–]brimshae 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

The issue is Hamas' main defensive strategy is using human shields. Putting their headquarters in a hospital, etc.

Oh those silly Palestinians. If they didn't want the IDF to give them two hours notice to evacuate a hospital they shouldn't have built it in the HQ of blood thirsty terrorists!

Jokes aside, let's look at this with stone cold logic, then. No judgement.

How many civilians, in your opinion, are acceptable casualties to kill one terrorist?

Ten civvies for one durkah-durkah? Twenty? A hundred?

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

pamphlets warned people to leave. they stayed due to their religion saying they'll get 72 virgins in heaven.

[–]Oyveygoyim 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Where are they supposed to go?

[–]brimshae 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's amazing that all those people stood around waiting to be blown up. Thank you, kind IDF operative!

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

most got the fuck out but yeah the retards stayed

[–]ID10T 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I don't really have an opinion. War is horrible. I think we should stay out of it. No aid, nothing.

[–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

No really, go ahead. How many civilians should the IDF be allowed to kill to kill one crazed jihadist before that's too many for you? No wrong answers, I'm just trying to get a feel for relative worth of murderous killers to noncombatants.

I think we should stay out of it. No aid, nothing.

Also true.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Allowed? There is no allowed in war. If a group was trying to exterminate your family how many civilians would you be willing to kill in order to stop the threat?

Like there's no right answer. It's a moral shade of gray. Me personally, I don't know, maybe enough to get the job done. I can't really say because I've never been in that situation. Maybe I'd get to the point where I was so sick of killing I would just say fuck it, take my family. Maybe I would enjoy killing so much I wouldn't be able to stop. Ya know?

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

We're not talking about your family, we're talking about getting those guilty of a horrible attack that already happened in the past. How many innocent people do you think it's acceptable to kill or cripple, to reach one of those guilty?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not the person you asked but I think the deaths of MANNNNNNNYYYYYY "innocent" people is acceptable in this situation.

Okay, now what? This isnt the gotcha you think it is.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not the original answer, but nice to meecha!

Well, maybe not, seeing as you're the type of person that would kill innocent people.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I personally wouldn't. But I'm okay with others doing it if their country is being attacked.

Nice strawman faggot.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Those dead Israelis are someone's family though. That's why that's how you need to think about this if you want to be fair minded.

Not that you do.

Personally I would kill millions to defend my family. Most would of that was ever a real option, no matter what they might say.

In fact you yourself likely make those kind of choices everyday just by choosing where you shop or where you live. People die everyday just for your lifestyle, not even to save your life.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I can't be asked to reply cos of this constant shit "an error occurred (status: 403)"

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I asked you a question on your personal opinion, don't puss out. How many innocent noncombatants should the IDF be allowed to kill for take out one Hamas shitbag?

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

24,546.5 exactly

[–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm going to take that flippant reply as literal and point out that you're a fucking bloodthirsty psychopath who is probably on the FBI's radar to supply as a future mass shooter.... if you're not already a state actor.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Simmer down meow

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    [–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Do you feel weird following me around the site like this?

    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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      [–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      How many civilians, in your opinion, are acceptable casualties to kill one terrorist?

      [–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      If they do lose that support I don't believe Israel wouldn't last very long.

      You don't not say.

      [–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      I feel you don't talk to enough sane normal people out there. The people around me agree Israel needs to carpet bomb palestine into the stone age.

      [–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      anyone of you would want to fight back if muslims paraglided in and raped your mom

      [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      uh, yeah?

      [–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      i misinterpreted sorry, you meant it was sane to fight back

      [–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      quite

      [–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      i'm used to this site being 95% pro savage

      [–]HiddenFox 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I think if I was leading Israel I would probably do the same thing too. But that wont change the mind of a lot of people. A lot see this as a war crime. We banned bombing civilians after world war 2.

      Of course I don't think these rules are worth the paper they are written on and in the end Israel has to do what they have to do. This has to end at some point.

      [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      "we" is the group that curb-stomped our enemies before making up rules so it wouldnt happen to us next time, the whole idea of 'laws of war' is retarded

      [–]Bigs 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      That's a double-negative Foxy

      [–]HiddenFox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      My bad!

      [–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That's a double-plus-good response :)

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      This is the mistaken, it isn't about revenge.

      It's about taking out Hamas.

      How would you take out Hamas and stop them from committing further attacks?

      [–]HiddenFox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I wish I had a simple answer for you. A lot of people wish there was a simple solution to this...

      I could purpose a mass army going door to door starting the the north and working south but that would be very dangerous and your looking at a lot of losses for the IDF. So probably not a good plan.

      To be honest I don't have a good plan. Maybe Israel is doing the best solution by bombing them back to the stone age. Make it hurt so much no one would dare try this again (Well for a generation or two at least. Until the memories fade.)

      It's a pretty strong argument that you can't defeat an insurrection when they have the support of the people. I don't know if the actions of Israel with break the people and have them turn on Hamas or just martyr them and create the next generation. Time will tell.

      [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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        [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        😮

        [–]HiddenFox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I think Israel will have to care. If the west pulled it's support from them (Say in the 2024 election someone says no more support for Israel if you elect me) I think the other Arab nations would overrun them.