Peru, one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, has just declared a national emergency due to exploding cases of Guillain-Barré Syndrome, but I'm sure those facts are totally unrelated

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[–]weavilsatemyface 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

Since Guillain-Barré Syndrome is not contagious and cannot spread from person to person, it's not clear what this 90 day "national emergency" can do.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

The article highlights that it's onset may follow a variety of infections and/or the COVID vaccine, so it kind of makes sense that a generic 'emergency' is announced just to cover their ass in case it turns out it's easily preventable which would embarrass them.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

it's easily preventable which would embarrass them.

This.

Don't get the injections.

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    [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Guillain-Barre syndrome is unrelated to COVID vaccines.

    FOUND THE BIG PHARMA SHILL

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      To say that Guillain-Barre syndrome is unrelated to COVID vaccines would be incorrect, it would be more correct to say that while studies have reported incidences where there may be causal link, there is not enough data to reach a solid conclusion. Only the Sith deal in absolutes, traitor to the Republic! 😄

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        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

        Name one.

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          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          This doesn't prove that the COVID vaccine holds no correlation with Guillain-Barre Syndrome. It doesn't even prove COVID saved any lives as the risk of COVID was so low in the first place, all it might prove is that the vaccine was non-fatal after administration for the majority of people. Besides, you're still 6.98billion off of your first claim.

          I asked for one and you still haven't produced. Here's one to oppose you though. The flu vaccine is understood to have a small correlation with Guillain-Barre Syndrome, therefore it would not be any surprise than any other type of vaccines might also have some risk of onset following in some individuals.

          Be honest, why are you such a simp for COVID vaccines?

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            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            It's illogical to believe there is zero risk based on selective statistics no more worthy of consideration than those you critique. The studies show some data, which doesn't demonstrate a solid conclusion. Your scientific method is flawed. If all science was simply brought to a halt because something is of low instance, we may not make many great technological advances. The only argument you have is you believe the COVID vaccine to be 110% harmless and godlike in its healing abilities, it's all bollocks mate, nobody cares.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            This doesn't prove that the COVID vaccine holds no correlation with doesn't directly cause Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            "study suggests"

            More fake $¢ience for INFLUENZA-19.

            [–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            What's a "generic emergency"? What are people supposed to do? Avoid going out of the home? Evacuate the cities and move to bomb shelters deep underground? What exactly are people supposed to do to prevent Guillain-Barré Syndrome during a state of emergency that they couldn't do during a regular time?

            I think that the state of emergency probably has more to do with this than anything medical.

            [–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

            They're finding a cause. The state of emergency facilitates gathering data.

            They had an outbreak in 2019 that was found to be due to a particular bacteria infection:

            In 2019, Peru reported an unprecedented outbreak of GBS that affected several regions of the country, with more than 900 cases reported. From the clinical-epidemiological characteristics and the study of the identified agents, it was concluded that this outbreak was associated with the presence of the Campylobacter jejuni ST2993 genotype.

            This one might be Zika or gastro or Covid-19:

            The exact cause of the disorder is not known yet. Reports suggest that two-thirds of the patients show symptoms of covid-19 or gastrointestinal infection or Zika virus in the preceding six weeks.

            [–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            They're finding a cause. The state of emergency facilitates gathering data.

            And how precisely does a state of emergency do that?

            I'm pretty sure that this state of emergency has more to do with this and the Guillain-Barré Syndrome cases are just an excuse. But maybe I'm being too cynical about an unelected, unpopular and illegitimate government which took power illegally in a coup. I'm sure they actually have nothing but the best interests of their subjects "citizens" in mind.

            [–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            And how precisely does a state of emergency do that?

            The country's hospitals and medical centres are aware of it and prioritise reporting back to the Ministerio de Salud.

            [–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            The country's hospitals and medical centres are aware of it and prioritise reporting back to the Ministerio de Salud.

            That's not a state of emergency under any definition of the term.

            I'd bet dollars to donuts that Guillain-Barré Syndrome was already a notifiable illness, and even if it wasn't, you don't need a state of emergency to make it so on either a permanent or temporary basis.

            [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Fair calls.

            On googling the state of emergency is to facilitate treatment.

            According to Vásquez, the emergency decree will facilitate the work of the National Center for the Supply of Strategic Health Resources to acquire 5,000 vials of immunoglobulin for the treatment of patients affected by the disease.

            [–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Ah, so I take it Peru is unable to order immunoglobulin on an expedited basis unless they declare a state of emergency first? 🙄

            There is a remarkable lack of English-language new sites explaining what this state of emergency actually means in practice. Aside from approving funds for the purchase of more immunoglobulin, what does this mean to the people actually living under this state of emergency? More lockdowns and compulsory medical tests like was done under the Covid state of emergency? Who knows?

            The only report of a Peruvian state of emergency I can find that discusses the actual effects of the state of emergency is this article from Reuters with a single casual line about it suspending "certain rights, including the freedom of movement".

            With Peru's illegitimate government being an American ally, mainstream propaganda outlets like Reuters don't usually go into too much detail about what is going on.