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ADL defends nazis in Ukraine: "They don't attack jews"
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[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (11 children)
To be fair most Jews killed weren't living in Germany but in Eastern Europe.
[–]Alphix 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (2 children)
To be fair, war kills a lot of people of all kinds.
[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
To be fair, if you pay taxes you are a terrorist.
[–]Rah 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
To be fair, democracy was a mistake.
[–]Circlesbadnews 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (7 children)
To be fair, most that died in concentration camps were from allies cutting off the food and medicine supplies.
[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
Nope, they died before the allies got anywhere near the camps.
[–]Circlesbadnews 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
Because the supply lines were cut off with other military actions away from those camps. The Nazi empire, in general, was starving and short of medicine, towards the end of the war in the Western Theater. PoWs/camp inmates are the first to be neglected in that circumstance.
[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (4 children)
This is nonsense.
Out of the approximately 15 million people murdered by the Nazis (this excludes war deaths), about:
Even if we pretend that all famine and disease was due to the Allies, and it certainly was not, that's not even close to "most".
But even if it were true, the victims' blood is still on the hands of the Nazis. When you lock somebody up against their will and take away their liberty, you become morally responsible for their safety and well-being. It was Nazi policy to cram concentration camp victims in dangerously over-crowded conditions, knowing full well that it would lead to disease. It was Nazi policy to give prisoners starvation rations, knowing full well it would lead to death by starvation and illness.
[–]Circlesbadnews 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (3 children)
So you're saying you believe the statistics regarding the number of deaths? Where are the 15 million bodies? Are you into baking cookies??
[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (2 children)
So you're saying you believe the statistics regarding the number of deaths?
Of course. You say that as if the stats are unreliable. As if the Allies didn't spend years investigating and running trials, and then historians another 70 years going over the records and evidence. As if there weren't tens of thousands of Nazi documents detailing their actions, thousands of eye-witness testimonies including those of camp guards and SS officers, mountains of physical evidence and demographic evidence that the Jewish population in occupied Europe fell by many millions.
Probably the least reliable number is the estimate of Soviet POW deaths, and that's probably an underestimate. Stalin made a big deal about hiding Soviet war dead so that the Allies wouldn't know just how badly the USSR had been affected and how many fighting-age men had died.
But whether it's 15 or 14 or 17 million, denying that there were many millions murdered in the camps is as asinine as denying that Americans own cars or that the French eat cheese.
Where are the 15 million bodies?
Buried or cremated, duh.
[–]Circlesbadnews 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
And this is where everything you said falls apart. Do you bake cookies?
[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
Buried or cremated, duh. And this is where everything you said falls apart. Do you bake cookies?
Oh my, this is gonna be good... go on then, explain to us how the existence of cookies proves that the Nazis didn't murder 15 million or so people.
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