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[–]NeedMoreCoffee 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Noel is a prick but he's not wrong on this one.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He actually mixes with these people. He knows what they think of us better than most.

[–]Cornfed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Has it ever been otherwise?

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Labour used to not hate the working class, yes.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Some of them. It was a problem even in Orwell's time.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The ones who hated the working class that Orwell was talking about were socialists. The ones who tried to kill him during the civil war in Spain.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nope, he talks about it being a major problem in the British left wing.

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The British left has long hated the working class for two main reasons:

  1. They tend to be patriotic. This runs counter to the internationalist nature most common to British leftism. This was particularly evident during World War II and during the Cold War.
  2. They declined to rise up, preferring a chance at prosperity and security over mass graves and economic ruin.

[–]Cornfed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In my experience leftist movements tend to be mostly run by upper middle class types who aspire to be ruling class.

[–]swordofdamocles42 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It all makes sense when you grow up and realize its just 1 party with an illusion of choice....