WotB refugees are our natural allies. I would like to sue for peace.

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[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It was before being removed from /all. More visibility on the front page.

A lot of people on this community already had a problem with WOTB being in /s/all. Actually a lot of saidit has a problem with reddit users being in saidit in general.

Being in /s/all requires that /s/WayOfTheBern respect saidit's guidelines. But not being in /s/all allows you guys to do much pretty much whatever tf you want as long as it's not illegal. I think the mods prefered the ability to shadow ban rather than being on all.

If this was reddit your community would simply get banned. Here on Saidit you just stop getting free advertising.

[–]Tom_BombadilNational status = freedom[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A lot of people on this community already had a problem with WOTB being in /s/all. Actually a lot of saidit has a problem with reddit users being in saidit in general.

The Reddit culture has affected everyone that's a regular.
Association influences people, and conservative views are brutalized there, and conservative people are associate with actual evil intent.

Going along to get along changes a person. What was unacceptable at Reddit years ago is now the norm. It will continue to degrade, and degrade the expectations of the community. This isn't a criticisms of you.

It's difficult to see the changes in ones self in this midst.

Things will never go back to the way it was before the strike. It was bad enough then.

You don't know what you don't know. There are very few remains places on the Internet where actual facts can be discussed openly, where new visitors can be exposed to them.

Cloistering away from s/all is a step away from learning about what really has us all enslaved. That truth simply cannot be discussed on Reddit.

Being in /s/all requires that /s/WayOfTheBern respect saidit's guidelines. But not being in /s/all allows you guys to do much pretty much whatever tf you want as long as it's not illegal.

I think the mods prefered the ability to shadow ban rather than being on all.

It is easier to ban someone, than to get 50,000 complaints from people who are blistered by moonbeans.

They are busy as it is, and they're used to this reaction being regarded as legitimate.
As long as the people regard it as legitimate.

Saidit certainly questions the legitimacy of censorship, etc. As you can see.

I strongly suspect the WotB mods each have it in them to be a benevolent leader. Although that takes way more effort, and time, etc. They're the mods of a culture of relative dissent. They are themselves victims of censorship, etc.

That's not the solution to the society they want to live in.

Suppression of other voices is part of Reddit culture. Let's call it neoReddit, because this Reddit isn't who you guys were. Hopefully, not are.

Censorships is something that people there became accustomed to. But there's a fundamental contradiction that eliminates the possibly of a solution.

It prevents the WotB from knowning the who/what/why of the system. Prevents the discussion of legitimate solutions that are powerful beyond comprehension for most.

Without accusation from me; censorship is a moral crime. I'm not pointing fingers.

Everyone deserves freedom of exchange of ideas, and freedom comes with reading what's regarded by some as bullshit.

That can only occur one way.

There's a philosophical reason for 1st amendment primacy among "classical liberal thought".

If this was reddit your community would simply get banned. Here on Saidit you just stop getting free advertising.

That's funny, and true.

But, we also have the freedom of thought, and debate, and the chance to learn information that the wealthy and powerful don't want us to know.

Censorship it's the tool of the powerful.

Information is the shield of the people.

Everyone deserves this fundamental right. Without it, we're doomed to slavery.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was shadowbanned from r/Conservative when I requested my flair. Conservatives are only allowed there if they're the liberal kind. It's just another shitlib sub now

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We never gave two caps about the community outside this one.

Ya'll put that in there to gatekeep.

When we were small, no one cared about that rule.

The minute this place starts growing or regulating?

OMG! END OF DA WUUUURRRRLLLD!

We got crybullies in the chat, people yelling at us regulars, calls that our mods need to go (when they've been here and putting in work to enrich THIS sub), yells that we should go back to Reddit, called all sorts of names including kikes and where do you stand?

Right there with the a-holes coming in here to piss on the carpet.

I swear, if the edgelord brain gets any more immature, I'll just believe Boss Baby is in control of those accounts and pray more old timers in this community can act with some common sense.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think the mods prefered the ability to shadow ban rather than being on all.

That's not shadow banning.
How can it be a "shadowban" if their words can be seen by all, and they know how to make their words be seen by all?

If this was reddit your community would simply get banned.

That's actually one of the funny parts of this. Over and over, we have been told "this is not reddit. we don't do that here."
At Reddit, for years we have been told "this is reddit. we don't do that here."

What we do here, and there, is as much Reddit as it is Saidit, and is as much not Reddit as it is not Saidit.

The ability to do what we do is in the base code of both. And what can be done... can be done.

And has rarely been done anywhere else. It is not a Reddit Thing; it is not a Saidit thing; it is a WayoftheBern thing.

When we started doing What We Do almost seven years ago, certain people in Reddit started freaking out about it, just like certain people in Saidit are freaking out now. To us, this is nothing new. But to you, it is.

And that's a rare thing. Something New. A lot of people do not know how to deal with Something New.

In all the years in which we have done this only one other sub has come to us to learn this -- a group of ex-Mormons trying to deal with non-ex-Mormons invading their sub. We willingly gave them what we knew, in hopes it would help.

But other than that, just us.