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[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (22 children)

Posts like AOC is why I like this sub. Yes I'm not a leftist and honestly it's hard aggreing with a lot of stuff here (maybe political barrier?) but at least you guys aren't the absolute most fucking retard woketoids in the planet, as you can also come to the understanding that affirmitive action in the end only affirms racism. Among other OBVIOUS points. (Hey you don't like industrial military complex too!)

Yes what I describe what you guys aren't is what I think most leftists are. I mean queer is the new emo isn't it? That's how these things goes.

It's why I stay subscribed even with your retard shadowban policy and the fact I only upvote like 3 posts out of the 20 that appear in my screen.

[–]stickdog 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world the left and the right exist."

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They do exist.

The thing is some issues are not leftwing or rightwing, but authoritarian or libertarian.

[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

but authoritarian or libertarian.

The collective vs the individual. And even these don't fall neatly along Left and Right.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah at least we're on the same page on these.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

What if I told you the real right-wingers were the 'leftists?' All of them simply repeat what the institutions tell them to.

If you are against the bourgeois institutions you are historically left wing. This sleight of hand the ruling class pulled is what's keeping us from uniting and removing them from power. It's just a semantics trick. Like everything else about their system.

This is the real enemy.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yes it doesn't fly above my head the leftists are the ones calling the rightwing "nazi" or "fascist", when they seem to have a thing against some people of a more lighter skin color and constantly want to deplatform people and arrest opponents.

It also didn't fly above my head how they are simping corporations from rainbow capitalism yet used "capitalist" as one of the steam tags of hogwarts legacy in that infamous attempt to boycott it either 😂

[–]risistill me 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yes it doesn't fly above my head the leftists are the ones calling the rightwing "nazi" or "fascist"

That would be Democrats. Democrats are not leftists, no matter how many politicians and their followers say otherwise.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If republicans are rightwing and democrats are not leftwing, who's leftwing? What are democrats then?

[–]risistill me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those left of Democrats are left wing and Democrats are the other right wing of America's uniparty, sometimes referred to by me as "the other right meat." And that is why both parties have us focusing on culture war issues. The rest of this is something I've posted before:

They are complicit with each other, much as were the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals. Each plays a different role in D.C. Kabuki Theater, much as the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals had different roles to play. Funny thing, though: Once the pretense or rivalry ceased being sufficiently profitable and the Trotters and the Generals stopped playing, the trademarks ended up with the same owner.

What some smart, insightful people have been saying about that since at least 1904:

The Republican and Democratic parties, or, to be more exact, the Republican-Democratic party, represent the capitalist class in the class struggle. They are the political wings of the capitalist system and such differences as arise between them relate to spoils and not to principles.

Eugene V. Debs 1904

In 1956, I shall not go to the polls. I have not registered. I believe that democracy has so far disappeared in the United States that no 'two evils' exist. There is but one evil party with two names, and it will be elected despite all I can do or say.

W.E.B Dubois 1956

The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

Julius Nyerere, First President of Tanzania

Our only political party has two right wings, one called Republican, the other Democratic. But Henry Adams figured all that out back in the 1890s. We have a single system, and 'in that system the only question is the price at which the proletariat is to be bought and sold, the bread and circuses.

Gore Vidal (distant cousin of Al Gore) circa 2000

[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes it doesn't fly above my head the leftists are the ones calling the rightwing "nazi" or "fascist"

And it's also the Rightwing calling the leftists Nazi or fascist.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

They call leftists nazi or fascist because the get called nazi/fascist to no end. They're just using it to troll them / dunk on their with their retarded logics.

I know some rightwingers who are better than that. We know what nazi and fascist mean but calling them that with their nazi/fascist logic is priceless.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We tend to work around that though.

For example, I do a lot of actual organizing and I talk to people that are confederate flag waving folks that love Trump.

Talk to them about issues, you find out they liked and voted for JFK in conservative country.

Maybe you talk to a guy about OPEC and he tells you about how monopolies are screwing him and how he hated Nixon and Reagan but loved Trump.

I wouldn't get anywhere calling these people fascist and just meet them where they are while we all point out the crazy.

[–]3andfro 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't get anywhere calling these people fascist and just meet them where they are while we all point out the crazy.

Bingo. That's the only "Way" to evade the purposeful trap of labels to find common ground and work toward common purpose for the common good.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You know that these people tend to swing to these confederate flag waving groups because they get shunned for having reasonable takes right? They aren't nazi, though they might become one by staying with these people. AOC is doing more damage than she thinks, making more people get more extreme and further dividing society.

Same with the left though. I remember a host on skynews australia interviewing a gay guy and when the skynewshost said "trans woman Dylan" the fag actually said "uh let me correct you Dylan is not a trans woman he's a woman" 😂 the world is a crazy place

At least with the rightwing, they're actually fighting the correct way. They aren't gonna get in the way of a gay or a feminist going to their group if it means a vote (though they will ask to respect their values, obviously). They will only clown on leftists logic, by quoting and retweeting them (thank god for Ellon). Not all obviously, but it's how the right is winning the cultural war. I mean why would the left make it so damn easy by going and chanting "we're coming for your children" lmao. Tuck Carlson goes and makes his reasoable talking points without calling anyone names or advocating for violence. It's looking like a 80% for Trump.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's exactly what I'm pointing out.

I tend to have far stronger and deeper conversations with people that think they're further right wing than I do the fauxgressive left (also: Synthetic Left) who have pride in the country and want to see it do better over someone that signals their virtue and maligns everyone that's not part of their cult.

Point being, I tend to be the most left wing in right wing circles despite being unconventional about it.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

who have pride in the country and want to see it do better over someone that signals their virtue and maligns everyone that's not part of their cult.

It's crazy to me that that's a "rightwing characteristic". Who doesn't want to see their country do better even if there's a president you don't aggre with in power?

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a result of a new dynamic that's developed recently of the globalist vs nationalist.

Consider that eccentric national fervor was once considered that of fascism.

With this split of global world over vs national pride, you have different factions that are created.

Let's say we want to build this country into a nation by controlling corporations and the rich. The banks are controlled to serve the public. With just that, you can eliminate a lot of national issues no matter where you are on the political spectrum.

For the globalist, these moves are anathema as they would rather have the power and control for the ruling class which we tend to oppose.

That's a small example meant to get you to consider those two factions as you work for or against them as you find your own interests.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Posts like AOC is why I like this sub. Yes I'm not a leftist and honestly it's hard aggreing with a lot of stuff here (maybe political barrier?) but at least you guys aren't the absolute most fucking retard woketoids in the planet, as you can also come to the understanding that affirmitive action in the end only affirms racism. Among other OBVIOUS points. (Hey you don't like industrial military complex too!)

Oh man, I should show you some of the posts where I was calling out AOC for months and catching hell and hate every which and way...

Affirmative Action mainly benefitted white women a LOT over Asians and African Americans but some of us wanted different policies to grow the country over anything like it. You just had to deal with the remnants of Civil Rights that got IN on identity politics to then work towards that and it wasn't happening.

Yes what I describe what you guys aren't is what I think most leftists are.

Most of the time, this place fights about top versus bottom, not left and right. You got conservatives, libertarians, socialists, anarchists, and everything in between all looking at the crazy and saying... "You seeing this shit?" while some crazy guy like Gates makes us all fight. That's where most of us are now.

It's why I stay subscribed even with your retard shadowban policy

My guy, that Turtle Tax gives us mileage of fun with the people that abuse it the most. If you aren't a dick most of the time, you don't see it. But if you're going first place into the finish line and someone hits you with the blue shell, you probably did something to get it.

And remember, don't believe the troglodytes. Simply put, the ones that know the least are usually the ones protesting the hardest and if you know your MacBeth, you know what they say when the lady doth protest too much...

[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

even with your retard shadowban policy

It's not really a shadowban, it's just a comment tax when anyone consistently breaks our One Rule. We're not fans of bans, so we developed this as an alternative to allow even annoying trolling to maintain the ability to continue to comment.

Don't hate us because we're beautiful clever.

[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That awkward moment when you realize we don't all look alike?

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Never said we did.

I just like hanging around here.

[–]Airbus320 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Ayy same

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great!