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[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

What if I told you the real right-wingers were the 'leftists?' All of them simply repeat what the institutions tell them to.

If you are against the bourgeois institutions you are historically left wing. This sleight of hand the ruling class pulled is what's keeping us from uniting and removing them from power. It's just a semantics trick. Like everything else about their system.

This is the real enemy.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yes it doesn't fly above my head the leftists are the ones calling the rightwing "nazi" or "fascist", when they seem to have a thing against some people of a more lighter skin color and constantly want to deplatform people and arrest opponents.

It also didn't fly above my head how they are simping corporations from rainbow capitalism yet used "capitalist" as one of the steam tags of hogwarts legacy in that infamous attempt to boycott it either 😂

[–]risistill me 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yes it doesn't fly above my head the leftists are the ones calling the rightwing "nazi" or "fascist"

That would be Democrats. Democrats are not leftists, no matter how many politicians and their followers say otherwise.

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If republicans are rightwing and democrats are not leftwing, who's leftwing? What are democrats then?

[–]risistill me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those left of Democrats are left wing and Democrats are the other right wing of America's uniparty, sometimes referred to by me as "the other right meat." And that is why both parties have us focusing on culture war issues. The rest of this is something I've posted before:

They are complicit with each other, much as were the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals. Each plays a different role in D.C. Kabuki Theater, much as the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals had different roles to play. Funny thing, though: Once the pretense or rivalry ceased being sufficiently profitable and the Trotters and the Generals stopped playing, the trademarks ended up with the same owner.

What some smart, insightful people have been saying about that since at least 1904:

The Republican and Democratic parties, or, to be more exact, the Republican-Democratic party, represent the capitalist class in the class struggle. They are the political wings of the capitalist system and such differences as arise between them relate to spoils and not to principles.

Eugene V. Debs 1904

In 1956, I shall not go to the polls. I have not registered. I believe that democracy has so far disappeared in the United States that no 'two evils' exist. There is but one evil party with two names, and it will be elected despite all I can do or say.

W.E.B Dubois 1956

The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

Julius Nyerere, First President of Tanzania

Our only political party has two right wings, one called Republican, the other Democratic. But Henry Adams figured all that out back in the 1890s. We have a single system, and 'in that system the only question is the price at which the proletariat is to be bought and sold, the bread and circuses.

Gore Vidal (distant cousin of Al Gore) circa 2000

[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes it doesn't fly above my head the leftists are the ones calling the rightwing "nazi" or "fascist"

And it's also the Rightwing calling the leftists Nazi or fascist.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

They call leftists nazi or fascist because the get called nazi/fascist to no end. They're just using it to troll them / dunk on their with their retarded logics.

I know some rightwingers who are better than that. We know what nazi and fascist mean but calling them that with their nazi/fascist logic is priceless.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We tend to work around that though.

For example, I do a lot of actual organizing and I talk to people that are confederate flag waving folks that love Trump.

Talk to them about issues, you find out they liked and voted for JFK in conservative country.

Maybe you talk to a guy about OPEC and he tells you about how monopolies are screwing him and how he hated Nixon and Reagan but loved Trump.

I wouldn't get anywhere calling these people fascist and just meet them where they are while we all point out the crazy.

[–]3andfro 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't get anywhere calling these people fascist and just meet them where they are while we all point out the crazy.

Bingo. That's the only "Way" to evade the purposeful trap of labels to find common ground and work toward common purpose for the common good.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You know that these people tend to swing to these confederate flag waving groups because they get shunned for having reasonable takes right? They aren't nazi, though they might become one by staying with these people. AOC is doing more damage than she thinks, making more people get more extreme and further dividing society.

Same with the left though. I remember a host on skynews australia interviewing a gay guy and when the skynewshost said "trans woman Dylan" the fag actually said "uh let me correct you Dylan is not a trans woman he's a woman" 😂 the world is a crazy place

At least with the rightwing, they're actually fighting the correct way. They aren't gonna get in the way of a gay or a feminist going to their group if it means a vote (though they will ask to respect their values, obviously). They will only clown on leftists logic, by quoting and retweeting them (thank god for Ellon). Not all obviously, but it's how the right is winning the cultural war. I mean why would the left make it so damn easy by going and chanting "we're coming for your children" lmao. Tuck Carlson goes and makes his reasoable talking points without calling anyone names or advocating for violence. It's looking like a 80% for Trump.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's exactly what I'm pointing out.

I tend to have far stronger and deeper conversations with people that think they're further right wing than I do the fauxgressive left (also: Synthetic Left) who have pride in the country and want to see it do better over someone that signals their virtue and maligns everyone that's not part of their cult.

Point being, I tend to be the most left wing in right wing circles despite being unconventional about it.

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who have pride in the country and want to see it do better over someone that signals their virtue and maligns everyone that's not part of their cult.

It's crazy to me that that's a "rightwing characteristic". Who doesn't want to see their country do better even if there's a president you don't aggre with in power?

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a result of a new dynamic that's developed recently of the globalist vs nationalist.

Consider that eccentric national fervor was once considered that of fascism.

With this split of global world over vs national pride, you have different factions that are created.

Let's say we want to build this country into a nation by controlling corporations and the rich. The banks are controlled to serve the public. With just that, you can eliminate a lot of national issues no matter where you are on the political spectrum.

For the globalist, these moves are anathema as they would rather have the power and control for the ruling class which we tend to oppose.

That's a small example meant to get you to consider those two factions as you work for or against them as you find your own interests.