What the Russians did

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[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

They forced the entire village of Yahidne into a tiny basement and sealed them in. They were only freed months later when the liberating Ukrainian army arrived. We dont know how many villages the ruzzians ethnically cleansed this way.

The streets of Bucha and Irpin were littered with dead civilians who were murdered and raped for no reason. There were blindfolded bodies with hands tied. There were murder pits. Putin rewarded the unit which ethnically cleansed Bucha by making them a special Guards unit.

They've literally done the Qanon nightmare of kidnapping hundreds of children to raise as sex slaves.

Dozens and dozens of torture chambers. This 16 year old was enslaved and forced to clean up the torture chamber after each use.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/19/ukrainian-boy-held-hostage-by-russia-tells-of-cleaning-up-torture-rooms

Rape rooms. Electrocution rooms.

One guy was tortured by having sharp things pushed into his eyes. Hundreds of rapes, including children..

Asphyxiation by gas mask. They pull the mask off when you come close to dying and then put it back on for another round.

https://echonewshub.com/russian-troops-accused-of-brutal-crimes-towards-female-soldier-in-ukraine-conflict/

We don't even totally know what they did to Mariupol.

I mean we know a few things, like destroying the theater with CHILDREN written outside, but we don't totally know how a city of a quarter million turned into a city of a few thousand. Google maps now has the mass graves: here's one

https://maps.app.goo.gl/3pfzMmUQRV6zRAye9

Absolutely nothing done in Ukraine is abnormal to ruzzians because it's exactly how they behave at home. Gulagu dot net is an organisation which works with leakers in the prison system. You can see how Putin's ruzzia really operates here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VGrgP5oju5g&t=322s

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

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Bucha

Provocation

Mar 30 - Ru troops leave Bucha

Mar 31 - Mayor of Bucha announces town 'liberated', makes no mention of atrocities.

Bucha liberated from Russian invaders – mayor - Ukrinform

The mayor of Bucha in Kyiv region, Anatoliy Fedoruk, stated that the town had been liberated from Russian troops. Fedoruk said this in his video address posted on Facebook, Ukrinform reports.

"March 31 will go down in the history of our Bucha community as the Day of Liberation. ..."

Apr 1/2 - Azov Nazis enter Bucha

Scenes of desperation and death as the Russians retreat from suburbs outside Kyiv. - New York Times

Ukrainian soldiers from the Azov battalion walked through the remnants of a Russian military convoy in the recently liberated town of Bucha on Saturday, just outside the capital after the Russians withdrew. Apr 3 - Ukr MinDef publishes video of 'Russian' atrocities

Here are the latest developments in the war in Ukraine. - New York Times, Apr 3

Footage posted by Ukraine’s Defense Ministry and photographs from news agencies showed the bodies of men in civilian clothes on the streets of Bucha, a town northwest of Kyiv. Images showed some corpses with hands bound behind their back.

Torture chambers

Okay, what am I supposed to get from that?

It takes time to build those and that's not my kink. But if you have a lot of them, wouldn't that imply Ukraine was using them and they were discovered?

Mariupol

Citizens say otherwise

Reconstruction is going on now

In regards to the theater, the hostages pointed their finger at the Ukrainian army

On the other hand, the information that the Azov headquarters moved from the building of the Drama Theater this afternoon was confirmed by various sources. The version about the alleged Russian airstrike looks implausible, since heavy street battles continue near the building. Such airstrikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) are impossible without the risk of hitting their own servicemen.

Lies spread faster than the truth it seems

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's made up his mind, don't confuse him with facts.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Did you forget Yahidne? The village where the ruzzians forced the whole town into a basement and just left them there. We don't know how many Yahidnes were never liberated.

Your fake timeline about Bucha simply confirms that Ukrainian troops moved in and discovered the bodies.

wouldn't that imply Ukraine was using them and they were discovered

Is that snide bullshit the extent of how much you're going to think about it.

Yes the ruzzians torture, in basements, in hospitals, in school rooms, in village halls, in pig sheds and just plain in the mud, where a Wagner member was recorded sawing a prisoner's head off. Another one was recorded pushing blades into a Ukrainian's eyes.

Your Mariupol citizens are fake, that's why they yelled out how "this is all fake" when Putin visited.

What about the mass graves visible on Google maps? Where are the missing and unaccounted for two hundred thousand people, according to your fake reality?

moved from the building of the Drama Theater this afternoon was confirmed by various sources.

Which sources ? Who? A rashist fake news blog? That's the level of evidence you cite ? An unsourced claim from a fake news blog.

Go back over the links I provided and compare the level of proofs. My proofs versus your bullshit fake news blogs.

sigh

I also linked you to Gulagu dot net and you forgot about that.

You forgot that Google maps already shows the mass graves.

You forgot how Putin actually gave awards for Bucha.

You forgot about Yahidne. (And Aleppo and Grozny)

You forgot that unsourced claims in a rashist fake news blog is not the same as evidence.

These all happened because of your incredibly low IQ. You wouldn't even be accusable as a paid russian shill - this is just nonsense - you seem to think the word "Azov" carries major weight when it's simply the name of the sea, and the national guard unit.

You sound like a moron because your threshold for proof is fake news blogs.

So let's review your thesis.

It was important for you to argue that the ruzzians don't torture, they're really nice, just victims of fake news.

To reach this kind of position requires self-brainwashing and reality denial. You felt like you had to leap to the defense of Voldemort. People should ask themselves why and what that says about you

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Nice gaslighting.

I guess cucking yourself for Ukraine only allows you to take their position. Especially when you don't understand how human bodies decay. You'll just believe any lie put in front of you.

Good luck with that.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Sorry, I am gaslighting you?

Did I do that by pretending that you never bought up the topic of Yahidne, Gulagu, the mass graves on gmaps? Is that the nature of how I gaslighted you?

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

The gaslighting is you bringing up a topic, ignoring what's stated such as Bucha while also trying very hard to make your views the only one you think is correct. You basically ignored that bodies that decay in 3 weeks is far different from anything else and you believe any lie coming from Ukraine while making it well known that the only ones you believe is Ukraine.

So when you lie, lie big, I guess. Overall, you focus more on spreading more lies than getting to the truth of the issue.

That's on you.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Okay, so you decided that I was gaslighting based on not getting into scientific arguments about the speed of decay.

I think if that's the rule for gaslighting, then you're probably five times guilty of it because you're ignoring such very important and demonstrative evidence for Russia's true nature - Yahidne, Gulagu dot net, the mass graves on gmaps.

Okay so let's talk decomposition. I can't believe this is literally the place where you have dragged conversation to. What it is about the speed of decay which you think proves that Bucha was a false flag.

And this had better be more than a fucking unsourced statement from a dipshit rashist retard fake news blog. Lay out your case asshole

Their own comments right now are pro-genocide and recognise what happened.

You're literally expressing a view contrary to general ruzzian opinion. They know what's happening and they revel in it.

https://pikabu.ru/community/politika

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Okay, so you decided that I was gaslighting based on not getting into scientific arguments about the speed of decay.

Right along with your Gish Gallup of lies about part of the issues that you failed to acknowledge how Bucha was committed by Ukraine or any other issues with your arguments.

You also claimed that the bodies were dead for three weeks according to those sources while ignoring the lack of bloat or decay or anything else as shown by the link you ignored.

I don't know what a Russian opinion would be since I'm an American seeing that America funds Ukraine and helped in the 2014 coup which is what I view as a waste of resources when Americans are suffering such as Ohio.

So you trying to attack other's characters while you maintain your ignorance on how science works is your own issue.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Right along with your Gish Gallup of lies

They're not lies.

And it's not Gish gallop. You're referring to a top-level post I made which was directly responsive to OP and on-topic. Within my on-topic, top level reply, I listed a number of points of evidence.

So it's not Gish gallop. And you haven't established that any of them were lies. Which were lies? Is the one about the mass graves on gmaps a lie?

You also claimed that the bodies were dead for three weeks

Could you please point to it? I said no such thing, liar. You're creating your own fake reality now.

2014 coup

It wasn't a coup. There's literally zero evidence of a coup, yet millions of Ukrainians who can attest their participation in a revolution of dignity.

So you trying to attack other's characters

Okay asshole, so let's examine your thesis.

On my side, I gave first hand evidence and direct links to satellite footage than anyone can click on and learn for themselves.

You, the asshole, interjected - it's fine to interject, when you have real points.

But you don't have any real points. You cited an unsourced statement in a fake news blog as your proof. You are interjecting with absolutely nothing but a desire to be a pest. That's why I'm calling you a asshole. You don't have anything to add, you just want to be a pest.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

They're not lies.

And it's not Gish gallop.

You failed to acknowledge anything outside your own pedantry.

The failure is on you.

Could you please point to it?

Here and here

You do more to attack others than their arguments. Instead of engage with what's written down, you yell about other things.

It wasn't a coup.

Video by Oliver Stone

Senator John McCain in Ukraine

Anatomy of a coup: How CIA front laid foundations for Ukraine War

Fast forward to September 2013, and Carl Gershman, NED chief from its launch until summer 2021, authored an op-ed for The Washington Post, outlining how his organization was hard at work wresting countries in Russia’s near abroad–the constellation of former Soviet republics and Warsaw Pact states–away from Moscow’s orbit.

Along the way, he described Ukraine as “the biggest prize” in the region, suggesting Kiev joining Europe would “accelerate the demise” of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Six months later, Ukraine’s elected president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted in a violent coup.

On my side, I gave first hand evidence and direct links to satellite footage than anyone can click on and learn for themselves.

You rejected the person for Bucha which is linked above and ignored anything outside what you posted.

Character attacks merely expose when you have no argument, you resort to name calling.