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[–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I strongly suspect some such scenario, though I haven't come to any firm conclusion. Kind of like the idea of WTC demolition, there seems to be a lot pointing to it, but nothing at all that isn't dubious to some degree.

It's important to keep our minds open to possibilities, and it's an important skill to be able to hold and mull a controversial idea in one's head for an extended time without reflexively latching on to it nor rejecting it out of hand, like most binary thinkers do. Skepticism is always healthy.

Even that said, though, it's important to consider what it's possible to know. What I mean isn't necessarily what evidence there might be, but what's allowed to be discussed. When avenues of independent investigation are shut down by force, threat, or coercion, people begin to speculate about the things that don't seem to add up, but which they feel strongly discouraged to inquire into. The shutting down of critical examination leads directly to speculation, which is then branded "conspiracy theory," an additional tactic to discourage inquiry. When this is the atmosphere we're forced to live in, it's hard not to recognize the powers that be, whether government, capital, or corporations, as adversarial. From this perspective, it's hard to draw any conclusion about the underlying truth other than the most nefarious.

I think such conclusions, like your own, are entirely legitimate. It's facile to fall back on the general rule that one has to have enough evidence to prove one's assertion, though that's almost universally true, because placing the burden of proof on the person making the assertion while some external agent attempts to make pursuing the truth and communicating the evidence a sisyphean task amounts to too great a burden to bear. In a case like this, it seems to me that the agent so diligently working to obscure the truth can be legitimately expected to bear the burden of disproving the assertion.

Given all of the obviously intentional obfuscation that's gone on around the pandemic response, I think it's legitimate to expect government and pharmaceutical corporations benefitting from their own actions to address these assertions directly, commit to full transparency overseen by independent observers, and provide mechanisms for citizens to steer any response in democratic fashion.

But the truth is, god forbid, you might well be right.

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wishy washy post

[–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Not accepting the conclusion is not tantamount to dismissing it. I'm entitled to give it all the consideration I think it's due. I'll draw a firm conclusion when I'm ready to come to one.

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gotta take a stand

[–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The stand I take is a political one. I have insufficient medical expertise to draw any conclusion regarding the empirical medical evidence, nor do I have any way to evaluate predictions of mayhem to follow this mass-vaccination campaign. I refuse to shout hysterically in the faces of those who choose to get the jab, despite the fact that many who did get it have shouted in mine to do the same. If the worst happens, I will reserve my sympathy for those obnoxious face-shouters, as there will be an enormous need for humane care for those who've been duped; as for those who perpetrated such a genocide, I will have no moral problem turning a blind eye to what becomes of them when they're caught.

Vaccine mandates are an egregious violation of medical ethics, the bedrock principle of autonomy, and of human rights. Vaccine passports are also a violation of the human right to travel, participate in society as an equal citizen, and to determine one's own medical decisions in light of their own medical history, religious commitments, and personal choice. This is the hill I'm willing to die on. This is where I make my stand.