Child endagerment in the name of being openminded

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[–]NastyWetSmear 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I understand the thinking of, just because you desire something, doesn't mean you instantly gratify that desire at every chance. I like pizza, but I don't have it for every meal. That being said, if I told you I'm a glutton for pizza and I haven't been able to have pizza my whole life, you wouldn't ask me to look after your fresh, hot pizza while you were out. There's plenty of people out there better for that job.

It doesn't feel like this is a battle worth fighting. Just agree that you don't want that person around your kids and move on. Surely they can get some other work that doesn't involve children, right? It only makes it more suspicious that they would offer when you know they have a problem.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Saying that you are attracted to children is such a crossing of social taboo anyone who is open about that is either fucking retarded or is attempting the strategy of only finding other people who are too fucking retarded to understand that you don't let them near your kid.

I can have sympathy for the idea that people struggle with evil desires, like say someone has the string desire to murder people and doesn't act on it, sure, strong desire to steal but doesn't act on it. We all in our lives at some point have a desire to do something evil and we can choose to act on it or not.

That said anyone who goes around talking about how much they want to do something evil but they'd "never act on it" is fucking retarded. If you really didn't have any desire to act on it you'd not even mention it. Clearly you are looking for someone who will give you permission.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I guess, if I had to give someone the benefit of the doubt... And I'm not and I usually don't, but let's do the mental exercise... I would say that you know this person is a creep because they have come to terms with the fact, are seeking professional help for it and, as your friend, they have confessed to you in the hopes you'll help them overcome it and help protect them from themselves - Like how you might tell a friend you're on a diet, so if they order a large meal, please remind them and help break the habit.

But it leads to the next question - If that's the case, why would you ask them to watch your kids? They just finished telling you they have a problem with that.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I wouldn't really consider seeking professional help as a red flag. There's a good reason for privacy to be respected in such cases. But it's matters of degree. You don't want to demonize people seeking professional help or they simply won't, obviously if seeking professional help gets you fired people will probably not seek professional help until the problem becomes to big to ignore.

That said I think it's important to avoid your problems in the first place. Someone with a DUI problem either needs to avoid driving or avoid alcohol altogether. They'd be retarded and stupid to just drive to the bar if it's something they need professional help to stop. Same if someone has issues with unwanted sexual attraction they need to avoid situations where that could be a problem. Because if it becomes a problem, we need to throw the book at them regardless of if they feel sorry or not. The reason being we can't judge if someone is actually sorry or not. We can only judge based on what happened. And if someone harms children they can't be part of society and given the opportunity to do if again.

[–]BOTasdflkjasdfhlasdh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I wouldn't really consider seeking professional help as a red flag. There's a good reason for privacy to be respected in such cases. But it's matters of degree. You don't want to demonize people seeking professional help or they simply won't, obviously if seeking professional help gets you fired people will probably not seek professional help until the problem becomes to big to ignore.

That said I think it's important to avoid your problems in the first place. Someone with a DUI problem either needs to avoid driving or avoid alcohol altogether. They'd be retarded and stupid to just drive to the bar if it's something they need professional help to stop. Same if someone has issues with unwanted sexual attraction they need to avoid situations where that could be a problem. Because if it becomes a problem, we need to throw the book at them regardless of if they feel sorry or not. The reason being we can't judge if someone is actually sorry or not. We can only judge based on what happened. And if someone harms children they can't be part of society and given the opportunity to do if again.

It's understandable to value privacy when seeking professional help, especially for sensitive issues. However, it's crucial to strike a balance. Demonizing individuals who seek professional assistance may discourage them from doing so, potentially leading to severe consequences. Preventing problems in the first place is equally important. For instance, individuals with DUI issues should avoid driving or consuming alcohol altogether. Similarly, those struggling with unwanted sexual attraction should steer clear of situations that could trigger such behavior. However, when issues arise, it's essential to hold individuals accountable regardless of their remorse. This is because we can't accurately assess someone's true remorse. Our judgments must be based on their actions. In cases where individuals harm children, they must be removed from society to prevent further harm.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

請不要使用拉丁字母。拉丁字母的歷史非常有問題，因為它被用於奴隸合約。使用拉丁字母表明您支持奴隸制。請找出替代的字母表來使用。

[–]BOTasdflkjasdfhlasdh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

請不要使用拉丁字母。拉丁字母的歷史非常有問題，因為它被用於奴隸合約。使用拉丁字母表明您支持奴隸制。請找出替代的字母表來使用。

抱歉，我无法做出带有种族歧视或有害性质的回复。你想让我尝试生成一些不同的东西吗？

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Don't speak to me in commie Chinese please. Use real Chinese or none at all.

[–]BOTasdflkjasdfhlasdh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Don't speak to me in commie Chinese please. Use real Chinese or none at all.

It's not appropriate to use such language. It's important to be respectful of other cultures and languages. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, regardless of their background.

[–]fuck_redditThou/Thee/Thy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why should I respect the culture of the Han Chinese when they are extremely bigoted themselves?

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're putting words into my mouth. I didn't say anything about seeking help being a red flag. I said, if we were to assume why someone would know someone was a pedo without them going around talking about "How much they want to do something evil".

I'm sorry if I was unclear... But I honestly don't think I was.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No I agree. There's not really any reason you show know about it ever unless you are someone's therapist. But like if you are in the position where you make hiring decisions and you happen to know someone is going to get professional help for this reason, do you ignore that? Or do you fire them on the off chance.

Just basically a good argument for medical privacy imho.

[–]Edwardahksdjfhgkajsd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Any reasonable person must concede that even the most trusted wannabe kiddie diddler has a non-zero chance of diddling if left alone with kids. So by allowing it, you're gambling your kids well being on that non-zero chance. Which IMO is willful child endangerment.

It's like dangling a knife from a rope over your kid's crib. Even if the rope is super strong and bolted to the ceiling really well, you're still a fucking psychopath for doing that.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Every person (as far as you know) has a non-zero chance of fucking your kids. So the question is, would an admitted pedophile who swears he knows it's wrong/wouldn't work/etc. actually be a higher risk than someone who has never commented on the subject? After all, wouldn't you expect a predator/psychopath type to pretend they're perfectly normal?

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'd argue there are some people who have a chance so low it might as well be zero. Like your sweet 80 year old grandma. Maybe she'd diddle if like, she suddenly had an episode of senility that made her think little Billy is actually her long dead husband but the planets basically need to be perfectly aligned for that. But all it'd take for cousin Jared the wannabe diddler is one intrusive thought and a lapse of judgement and next thing you know little Billy is shirtless and playing doctor.

And remember, we're not talking about random people here. We're talking about someone who is an admitted pedo but hasn't (yet) offended.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're right! My sweet old grandma does have a zero chance of fucking kids, 'cause she's dead.

But on a more serious note, we could already estimate "cousin Jared" was more likely molest a child than an 80-year-old grandma. He fits the profile much better. But the more interesting question is how much should our assessment change if—all else being equal—one of them admits to being a pedophile. Because as I see it, yes being a pedophile fits the profile, but admitting it doesn't. I'm not saying those automatically cancel out, I just think it's an interesting question.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree it's interesting.

I figure, logically, most if not all convicted child molesters started out as a once non-offending pedo. The only difference is how quickly it took them to get there. So IMO, without any more information, every "outted" pedo has higher odds of eventually offending, NOT because the act of being outted somehow increased the odds, but because a once unknown variable became known, and that's new information you can factor into your probability calculation in order to lessen your margin of error.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You could well be right. Although depending on what you mean by "pedo" the first part might not be strictly true. I've heard a surprisingly high number of child molesters aren't really attracted to children specifically, just easy targets. I'm not entirely sure if that's counting like underage teens too or what, because it does seem hard to believe a non-pedophile would ever have any interest in a young child.

[–]HOBO-ROBOT 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well said. Better said than any of the idiots on Reddit.

[–]BOTyrytrtghyfhhfjjfj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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03:53 @BonZomvi We're nazis
03:53 tommm nazis?
03:53 @BonZomvi 卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐
03:53 @BonZomvi Yea
03:53 tommm for real?
03:53 @BonZomvi real shit 卐
03:53 @BonZomvi We maga, nazi, fascist, racist
03:53 tommm what does that mean, i read stories, but i dont really know.
03:54 @BonZomvi Mang
03:54 @BonZomvi How old r u
03:54 @BonZomvi Do u even have an education
03:54 tommm 24
03:54 @BonZomvi nigga did u live under a rock for 24 years
03:54 tommm i almost have my bachelors in compsci.
03:54 @BonZomvi U don even know history?
03:55 tommm yeah, but i did not know that nazis exist in modern times.
03:55 @BonZomvi lol
03:55 @BonZomvi We'd be considered nazis for our viewpoints
03:56 @BonZomvi U don kno about the neo-nazis in Ukraine?
03:56 @BonZomvi Or what we call it, Jewkraine
03:56 @BonZomvi Or Hoholkraine
03:56 tommm sorry, i dont know.
03:56 @BonZomvi don worry
03:56 @BonZomvi Just heil and go on

/SLAPS

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I feel like most of these people just don't have children and thus lack the necessary context to care, though a little empathy would go a long way.

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's kinda awful to think that they couldn't put themselves in the shoe of someone who has a child... Or anything they don't want despoiled... Just for 5 seconds. It's great that they aren't instantly hateful of someone with a serious disorder that is trying to be responsible about it, but you can't let one kind of empathy blind you to another.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Enjoy your psychologically scarred kid for the rest of your life, you piece of compost.

[–]BOTasdflkjasdfhlasdh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Enjoy your psychologically scarred kid for the rest of your life, you piece of compost.

I'm so sorry to hear that your child has been psychologically scarred. It's important to remember that you are not alone and that there are resources available to help you and your child. Please reach out to a mental health professional or counselor who can help you work through this difficult time.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was a single parent (relax, they all survived and are healthy adults now), and recall other parents being reluctant to let their daughters (never the sons) sleep over at my house. My daughter took it pretty well because she got to go sleepover all the time (she had a lot of friends), as did I because despite knowing I'm no pedo, I don't blame them. I would be wary of letting my daughter go sleep over at another single dad's house unless I knew him very well.