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[–]LtGreenCo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If anyone got us to this place its the feminists

You can draw a straight line from feminist theory to gender ideology.

Underrated comment. A decade ago it was the man-hating feminists like this lady who welcomed all of these gender freaks into their ranks and now they're acting suprisedpickachu.jpg now when everything's gone predictably tits-up. You reap what you fucking sow.

Unfortunately it's not just these spiteful cunts who are affected by the gender insanity, it's normal women as well: mothers, sisters, daughters, wives, girlfriends. If it weren't for that fact I'd be happy to sit back and watch as trannies devoured all of the feminist spaces.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This isn't really true unless you consider feminism to be all the things that every person cumulatively refers to as feminism today. The radfems have always been anti-man and this exact reason is why they became the canary in the coal mine and then the front lines against TRAs. They are rooted in second wave feminism and are advocates for women's only spaces which was one of the core issues of the second wave. At the time there were often no bathrooms for women in public places and women who left the home were often harassed by men who treated them as sex objects.

The most toxic transgender people are the autogynephiles. They are sexually aroused by seeing themselves as their idea of an "ideal woman" which is basically just a mindless sex doll. These are still heterosexual men who are going to threaten women's privacy by gawking at them in the toilet with a weird sexual gaze. Radfems were second wave feminists who became rather extreme in their anti male bias and defense of women. They ended up slamming head first into the TRA autogynephiles a good decade or 2 before anyone else had caught on.

All the people today espousing 3rd and 4th wave feminist ideas are almost antithetical to what a 2nd wave feminist was fighting for and this part isn't really surprising because TRAs are best at parasitically stealing credibility from all other movements. Yes they stole terminology from intersex people and stole history from gays, but they also ran off with feminism. The AGPs in particular were obsessed with being feminists because it was another layer of being a "woman". This whole field of intersectionality is about proving how MtFs are even more important in feminism because they can layer all of these labels on top. They took the antimale terminology from 2nd wave and spun the exact same words to be about transgenderism.

[–]fuck_redditThou/Thee/Thy 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This ignores the fact that men lost our single-sex spaces almost entirely before the first assaults on female-only spaces began. Feminists invented the lawfare strategies that troons are currently using to attack women. 2nd wave feminists were just as into the “desegregation” of everything masculine as the 3rd and 4th waves.

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is precisely why I won’t take these women seriously until they are willing to admit that it’s fair and right for both men and women to have their own spaces, both free of each other and free of perverts pretending to be the opposite of what they actually are.

They want men to be their ally in a fight to restore things for women that women won’t grant to men. It’s not a fight about equality, it’s about returning to the status quo of privileges for women.