TRANSGENDERHas anyone else noticed an increase in "polite" TERFs?

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[–]SerpensInferna 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

...what's wrong with blocking mixed shelters?

[–]OuroborosTheory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

because men and 8yo boys can also be abused? and, more to the point, why block a shelter in general? it's just an asshole move on principle

[–]SerpensInferna 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Wow, okay.

Women are far more at risk of abuse from men in these situations and deserve safe spaces in this regard. Go ahead, I'll wait for your proof that this isn't true. Why is it a cardinal sin, in your list of other things you hate women for wanting, for women to want a space without men?

Personal experience - I worked at a DV shelter for a long time. Part of the reason I quit was because they began allowing "transwomen" in, and it was a straight up horror show every time. It only cemented my beliefs that women and children should have spaces of their own, whether because of homelessness or what have you.

Why is it wrong for men to have their own shelters, and women to have their own shelters? Seems like it stops a lot of complications.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

ah, I meant they were the ones who shut down men's and family shelters: they don't think males of any age need shelters at all, and they were able to enforce that

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is absolutely not true. Why can't men create their own shelters instead of demanding access to women's spaces?

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Personal experience - I worked at a DV shelter for a long time.

So you would be aware of things like the funding disparity and the screams of "your taking our funding away!!!!!" when mens shelters are proposed or even the cases where women and children are turned away because there is a male child above a certain age?

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Absolutely that did not happen, I have no idea where your getting that info.

We had a women's shelter, and a program where men were able to stay in rental units away from the shelter (also funded by the programs we had). You are sadly and gladly misinformed and spreading lies about that.

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are sadly and gladly misinformed and spreading lies about that.

And you are aware of what happens at every DV shelter everywhere with no exceptions...

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I worked in a DV shelter for a long-ass time, did you?

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which would make you knowledgeable about that shelter and others around it, but hardly every shelter everywhere...Beyond that you are pretty much pulling a "trust me bro"...

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It is not an issue. The issue is that men do not have these things, and are actively prohibited from having them. Only women are allowed to have them. Women are valued as human beings, but men are only valued as much as what they achieve.

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

How are they actively prohibited from having them? Again, why do men not create their own spaces and insist on entering women's? I suppose this is why TRAs and really MRAs in thinly veiled disguise.

Women worked hard to create safe spaces for themselves, why can't men do they same? Why do men blame women for absolutely everything when they make their own beds?

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because the few men who do that are ridiculed or even penalized by society; and no one would EVER support them. Men are not supposed to ever need help, they have to have it all together and solve everybody's problems or they are WORTHLESS.

It's not as if organizations for men don't exist. People don't support them. Prostate cancer is much more common than breast cancer, yet breast cancer gets all the support. Why? Simply because breast cancer is a woman's problem, while prostate cancer is a men's problem. And people naturally only care about the former.

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All I hear is the distant sound of self-pitying sobs. That's no way to live life, man.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the only way to live life. Anyone who thinks they're happy is in denial. Even the luckiest of the luckiest have a completely shit deal. This whole reality is a prison.