TRANSGENDERHas anyone else noticed an increase in "polite" TERFs?

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[–]Femaleisnthateful 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Get ready to notice a whole lot more of it. More and more people are peaking with the constant incursions into women's spaces, stories about transwomen's violence against women, indoctrination in elementary schools. These Reddit assholes think they should be entitled to get whatever they want, all the time, and that any boundaries they're asked to respect are a violation of their holy rights. The more they reveal themselves, the more pushback they're going to get.

[–]LyingSpirit472 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Don't forget how the snarts have gotten so hardline that at this very moment, the definition of how not to be a TERF is "if the person is not at this very second, slowly, lovingly sucking a girldick, then they're a TERF", which has moved the goalposts to the point anyone who is even remotely reasonable falls under the TERF banner.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

They've made it impossible to be a true 'ally'. In my observation of my coworkers and family, the ones who blindly support this stuff are the ones who know the least about it.

[–]Haylstorm 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Honestly their nutters make it hard to support the reasonable ones.

Like shit man I'm sorry you feel like you're in the wrong body and I think you should have appropriate support there. But I don't think that your delusion means you can have an all access pass to women's spaces. There are reasonable trans people that agree with this completely but you don't hear them over the screeching of the crazies who think that they belong in a women's domestic violence shelter.

[–]OuroborosTheory 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I mean their whole rationale is "I wouldn't feel safe around males in the bathroom or changing room" and everyone else can say "yeah, no shit"

like, most men aren't going to whirl around and yell "it's rapin' time!" if a woman walks into the can, but the stereotype is of a hunchbacked, balding, unwashed, freak wearing Mother's panties, taking photos, and tugging it so they might want to put some effort into gatekeeping against that

[–]Haylstorm 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Tbh when you look up that statistics of Transwomen and sex offences it also adds another layer of wariness to wanting the in those spaces. Like it's not a fetish for everyone but you probably want to gatekeep those out if you don't want people to get that impression.

Not to mention there's this really....creepy? undertone when some transwomen post about not feeling safe in male bathrooms that just has this off vibe. Like that's what they want to happen if that makes sense? It's seriously offputting.

[–]OuroborosTheory 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

something else TRAs and TERFs can agree on--constant simmering rape fantasies! no wonder they both want to be rape-shelter counselors so bad, ugh

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of AGP fantasies are deeply connected to objectification. I've seen so many trans memes and posts about finding sexual harassment validating. Also victimhood is a central tenet of their identities so it makes sense that they would seek it out.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we've seen that affirming people in their delusions only makes them feel worse. Look at all the troons breaking down because they can't handle being 'misgendered' or some nonsense. I watched a YouTube video from some HSTS describing how he quit his job recently because he was clocked at work. An identity centred on a false reality is doomed to self-destruct.

[–]LyingSpirit472 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, the reason I can still support the reasonable ones is the firm knowledge the nutters are Dark Triad pieces of shit, and if they weren't demanding special treatment for being trans they'd demand special treatment for some other reason.

They just cloak themselves in trans rights because it's the only group who heard them flat-out say "we don't have equality until you raise me, personally, on a pedestal and let me live a life of decadence where my every whim is fulfilled the second I have it", and said "yes, that's right. We NEED to raise this person on a pedestal!"

[–]ClassroomPast6178 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

As opposed to?

I’ve literally never seen anyone wanting to disagree with the dominant transgender ideological position who wasn’t extremely polite. Even people like KJK who don’t mince words only ever resort to harsh words when they’ve been screamed at, threatened or assaulted.

In fact, having watched a lot of videos featuring TRAs and gender critical commenters, the only ones who seem to go ad hominem, raise their voices or make threats (including suicide threats) are the TRAs.

I would suggest that this image is more evidence of their standard tactic of DARVO (deny, attack, reverse victim and offender) and actual gaslighting, as opposed to the social media overuse of the term.

[–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (34 children)

I mean, there are TERFs who call TIMs "pornsick autogynophiles" and such... whether accurate or not I certainly wouldn't call that polite.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just accurate

[–]OuroborosTheory 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (31 children)

they just keep throwing around "TERF" so often everyone forgets what the RFs actually believe: exempting themselves from rape laws, abolishing trials for rape defendants, wanting to flat-out murder your 14yo son for hitting puberty and admitting it in public, blocking mixed shelters, blocking campus men's centers, schlicking it to Amber Heard, and teaching undergrads that 9M wombxn were killed by the Protestant Inquisition in the witch hunts to conceal the fact that women reproduced parthenogenically before 1600 BC

even the most mainstream feminist phrases ("males tend to be more rivalrous and competitive") will get you thrown out of the right-thinkTM circles if you apply it to males with long hair and a skirt (Highland Scots?)

thing is, everyone had to applaud and bobblehead along whenever they turned their wackadoodles into policy, since you also had to take mandatory training courses created by them or no degree/job: it only changed when they touched the third rail and everyone "realized" at once that they never liked them and were just playing along due to social pressure and outright coercion

and it keeps happening--one forum I frequent literally banned someone for doubting Robin DiAngelo one month in 2020, and two months later was denouncing her as typical white-lady antiracism

[–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah. Radical Feminists (the RF in TERF) pretty much always hate men.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

And why not when they are all whiny bitches like ouroboros.

Women literally set up rape shelters completely under their own steam and then guys like him rather than thinking "maybe men need that, I could do the same" think "why are abused women exculding me, my poor little feelz are hurt".

[–]IMissPorn 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

RFs hate men's shelters too.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That article is literally making the point men's shelter should find more funding for themselves rather than take from the pot developed by female refuges.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But no one makes the women find their own funding. It's the same misandrist crap about how men should provide for everyone, but if they themselves need help they're worthless and don't deserve it.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not like they don't exist. But who do you think the average carnal-minded person is going to support vs view as a potential threat to be eliminated? They don't succeed.

Why should women have the right to have all freedoms with no responsibilities while men are obligated to bend over backwards for them? Simply because women were oppressed in the past? And even that ignores the ways in which men were oppressed, and still are!

Just admit it, it's because of the women are wonderful effect, and for women it's because you know it will benefit you! If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can usually count on having Paul's vote. So of course women find matriarchy appealing, just as men find patriarchy appealing. Why is it okay when you do it, but not when men do it? Isn't that hypocritical?

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they hate most women, too: even if you're not a "handmaiden" you're still a gender traitor allowing the unnatural perversion of PIV to propagate and having babies of the male subspecies: the only true orgasm can come from kissing a 50something women's studies professor's lotus

[–]SerpensInferna 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

...what's wrong with blocking mixed shelters?

[–]OuroborosTheory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

because men and 8yo boys can also be abused? and, more to the point, why block a shelter in general? it's just an asshole move on principle

[–]SerpensInferna 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Wow, okay.

Women are far more at risk of abuse from men in these situations and deserve safe spaces in this regard. Go ahead, I'll wait for your proof that this isn't true. Why is it a cardinal sin, in your list of other things you hate women for wanting, for women to want a space without men?

Personal experience - I worked at a DV shelter for a long time. Part of the reason I quit was because they began allowing "transwomen" in, and it was a straight up horror show every time. It only cemented my beliefs that women and children should have spaces of their own, whether because of homelessness or what have you.

Why is it wrong for men to have their own shelters, and women to have their own shelters? Seems like it stops a lot of complications.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

ah, I meant they were the ones who shut down men's and family shelters: they don't think males of any age need shelters at all, and they were able to enforce that

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is absolutely not true. Why can't men create their own shelters instead of demanding access to women's spaces?

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Personal experience - I worked at a DV shelter for a long time.

So you would be aware of things like the funding disparity and the screams of "your taking our funding away!!!!!" when mens shelters are proposed or even the cases where women and children are turned away because there is a male child above a certain age?

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Absolutely that did not happen, I have no idea where your getting that info.

We had a women's shelter, and a program where men were able to stay in rental units away from the shelter (also funded by the programs we had). You are sadly and gladly misinformed and spreading lies about that.

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are sadly and gladly misinformed and spreading lies about that.

And you are aware of what happens at every DV shelter everywhere with no exceptions...

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I worked in a DV shelter for a long-ass time, did you?

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It is not an issue. The issue is that men do not have these things, and are actively prohibited from having them. Only women are allowed to have them. Women are valued as human beings, but men are only valued as much as what they achieve.

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

How are they actively prohibited from having them? Again, why do men not create their own spaces and insist on entering women's? I suppose this is why TRAs and really MRAs in thinly veiled disguise.

Women worked hard to create safe spaces for themselves, why can't men do they same? Why do men blame women for absolutely everything when they make their own beds?

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because the few men who do that are ridiculed or even penalized by society; and no one would EVER support them. Men are not supposed to ever need help, they have to have it all together and solve everybody's problems or they are WORTHLESS.

It's not as if organizations for men don't exist. People don't support them. Prostate cancer is much more common than breast cancer, yet breast cancer gets all the support. Why? Simply because breast cancer is a woman's problem, while prostate cancer is a men's problem. And people naturally only care about the former.

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All I hear is the distant sound of self-pitying sobs. That's no way to live life, man.

[–]xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How many RFs are actually TE though.

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean the accusation's the other way around, that they say anyone who's "transphobic" (and here they include people who think you need dysphoria to be trans) is one of these she-hoteps

that's like calling an Indian nationalist an Aryan supremacist or something, it's just too far out in left field

[–]SerpensInferna 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you okay?

[–]SerpensInferna 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All of them? Radfems don't believe TW are female (which they are not) and therefore cannot speak to the plight of women. So yes, they are trans exclusionary towards men, but TM are women and so are therefore included under the broad umbrella of feminism.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody thinks TW are female. Honestly, I don't think even most trannies do.

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its somewhat strange but they are also the originators of the entire "no bio differences between the sexes" as well. The RFs that is.

And frankly the screaming horde of nutjobs is/was their goto response to things they don't like, which is why they can cry me a river

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

conceal the fact that women reproduced parthenogenically before 1600 BC

What are you on about?

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

that's one of the fringe theories, that Paleolithic Europe was not just matriarchical but didn't need men to reproduce (until the patriarchal Indo-Europeans invaded), it sounds like Charlotte Perkins Gilman's Herland: that then combined with Margaret Murray's fantasy about paleolithic Goddess-worship (which conveniently lacked any sort of record) surviving to the 1600s

it's the equivalent of those "the Ainu were Black and the Hopi were Black and the Greeks were Black and the Kievans were Black and--" weirdoes

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bizarre.

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean...they are pornsick autogynophiles, so...

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    [–]SerpensInferna 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Are you for or against the anti-trans movement?

    [–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You mean, "being normal"?

    [–]QueenBread 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Translation: "has anyone noticed that our opponents talk like normal, polite and calm people, instead of being frothing yelling violent lunatics such as us? This is annoying, because it makes people realize -we- are the crazy ones".

    [–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Has anyone else noticed the trans community (specifically so-called activists) love to paint someone with their hate brush the minute they don't chug their rainbow kool-aid? And boy does that community have some wild tales. Biology of men and women is the same, no difference (though they can't explain how trans women simply cannot get pregnant). Men menstruate, though biologically they simply don't have the equipment, and "women" have fantasy menstruation.

    [–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The top comment:

    It’s called concern trolling. It is a diversion tactic of feigning false concern to disguise bigoted hostile intent. Trans people and well informed allies can listen between the lines and hear the hatred. But the uninformed and unfamiliar will likely struggle to grasp the hateful nature of the message. Which is the intent. They want to intentionally misinform others as a form of indirect attack.

    Oh no, they're on to us! 🙄

    It shows how much these nitwits have bought into their cult that any concern raised about this nonsense must be a concerted attack by hateful bigots. Surely they couldn't be wrong that's it's stunning and brave to wear the opposite sex like a costume, invade sex-based spaces and categories, and teach children the gender fairy can turn them into a real boy/girl.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    No

    [–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I fully support their journey to be their 41% authentic selves.