How’s about, no! - NHS should pay private clinics abroad to provide phalloplasties for transmen claim campaigners.

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[–]Femaleisnthateful 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There's a reason these surgeries are couched in euphemisms. Once people become educated about what 'gender-affirming surgery' actually entails, they're not going to want to support it. Not with their tax dollars, and not without stringent medical vetting.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yup, through all the recent attempts to get it wiped from the internet, I decided to check out kiwifarms. I ended up on the sex reassignment surgery thread and OMFG. It's horrific. And heartbreaking. I was already aware of how dodgy these surgeries are but I still wasn't prepared for what I saw. And this was reposts of posts from transitioned people, many of whom were claiming to be happy with their results.

I honestly believe that if the reality of these surgeries were mainstream news this would all be over in six months. And some of these surgeons would be in jail.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I've read a number of reports that are like "I'm happy with the results even though I'm in excruciating pain infected and need to go get another emergency surgery to prevent sepsis."

And I'm like, damn this person is clearly insane and we just, let them get whatever cosmetic surgeries they want regardless of the risks?

There's stuff like butt enhancements. (You inject some kind of substance into the buttocks to make it bigger, often results in lumpy deformed buttocks that look like something from a lunar landing expedition) and nobody has a problem telling people not to get those as they are dangerous. But invasive genital surgery on the suicidal person? Yeah anyone think that maybe that will make them more suicidal?

[–]tiny-brown-mug 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why is this legal? That's my only question, man, why is it legal to do this to people, and to allow them to do this to themselves? This is not normal.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Taxpayers should pay for trans men wanting a penis to get one abroad because of lengthy NHS queues, campaigners have controversially said.

Biological females transitioning to become men can ask for a penis — sometimes called bottom surgery — so they can better match their gender identity.

But waiting lists for the complex op, called a phalloplasty, which is also offered to men who lose their genitalia in serious accidents, can be up to four years.

[–]r2d2_21 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But waiting lists for the complex op, called a phalloplasty, which is also offered to men who lose their genitalia in serious accidents, can be up to four years.

It's almost as if requesting a dangerous body-altering surgery should be reserved only to those who need it for medical reasons.

[–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not to mention wanting to queue skip sounds like a court case in the making...

Like you know someone is going to have one go very wrong, there's a reason somewhere else wouldn't have queues after all and then blame the NHS for subpar work.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They claim it is for medical reasons.

Personally I still maintain the very simple position that, gender disphoria is a psychological condition, that doesn't require medical intervention, but you'll get harassed by the crazies if you say it outright, since part of the condition apparently involves attacking anyone that breaks the illusion.

[–]BISH 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They should ask Doctors Without Borders to help Men Without a Sausage.

They can put the MAN back in huMANitarian; and fashion a flesh phallus from the forearms of mentally tortured women.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't realize they used the fake scrotum to house a liquid pump.