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[–]ClassroomPast6178 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

GenCon has fallen, but did it fall now or has it been happening for a while? It was always the mythical event that 1989/90 me had read about but had no chance of ever attending.

The whole tabletop gaming/RPG market has bent the knee over the past decade in an attempt to appease the cunts who bullied those of us who partook in the past time before it became fashionable. They couldn’t just join in with the game, no, they had to ruin the thing I loved as a teenager and when the next in thing rolls around they’ll move on and leave the damage in their wake.

Fuck these people.

[–]TurkishCoffee 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

TTRPG shit went woke years ago, most of the big names and the smaller ones who work in the industry are insufferably woke, and all the cons went woke awhile ago.

Trust me, there's more men in dresses, antifa wannabe rioters, and cancel culture karens in TTRPG right now than almost anywhere.

As usual, back in the day you found your nerd crew and ran your games the way you wanted. Because you didn't wanna be bullied. 30 years later, you find your ned crew and run your games the way you want and orcs can be evil without being racist, but just shut up about it and dont let the bullies find out.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've seen people speculate that the reason for the increase in wokies in the TTRG scene is in part because, as an "outsider" hobby, the participants are more open to non-standard beliefs and ideologies. It makes them fertile ground, so to speak, for recruiting to the cause (whatever that may be).

And then, once they get a taste of what being on the "right side of history" can be like--being able to cancel people that they don't like, being able to change language and all the rest--they start to live out (consciously or subconsciously) the fantasy of being the ones putting the boot to people for not being part of the new in-crowd.

Don't know if any of that speculation is accurate, but it would explain a lot if it is.

[–]TurkishCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think they may be onto something. As a lot of subcultures that are "outsider" but dont have a reason to have an insulation layer so to speak, have become very very woke.

Pagan circles, for instance, are incredibly woke in often contradictory ways. LGB became LGBTQIAA whatever the fuck. TTRPG got woke. moves were made in other hobbies but it seemed to cause splits/splinters in some of them and in others it just died out entirely. Some of that seems to fall along lines of was it woman-dominated (they'd bend) or male dominated (they'd tell you fuck off), but that's a trend not a rule.

I'm not sure how much it's the original outcasts getting a taste of power though. a lot of the "older" members of hobbies quietly stepped back or went their own ways. the old guard got moved out for a lot of late teens, early 20 wokesters, so i guess that's gen Z? (I'm elder millenial and my peers definitely split among being woke, vs just exiting.) I suspect a little of it is that, but a lot of it is the usual kids who would have otherwise been neither nerdy nor popular walking in and realizing they can assume control. At least in TTRPG a lot of them have no idea the history of the thing they've taken over or some of the richness they've discarded. In paganism they have no idea it's not a trend to wear the right symbols and look cool and that people actually used to take "witch" as a part of a serious spiritual and religious path (and of course there were always nutters. but that's true of all things). The discussions that used to happen in those circles have died becuase "cultural appropriation"..which is fine if it's the right culture apparently. It's a load of postmodern gobbledygook.

On the other hand, i've noticed subcultures who had a reason to gate keep to begin with, seem to be faring better. Ie groups of people with hobbies or beliefs that were, and still are, snubbed by the mainstream/pop culture and have always been wary of letting just any body in seem to have managed to avoid the "woke" infiltration taking over.

Makes me a big believer in gatekeeping to be honest.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anyone crying about gatekeeping is exactly the sort of person that policy was meant to be used against, in my opinion.