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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A person with one DNA isn't a chimera.

This is worded so goofy.

But after doing more reading, a gamete may very rarely carry two sex chromosomes, meaning that people can be XXY, XYY, or XXYY without being chimeras. So okay.

The biological definition of male for animals is the sex of an organism that produces sperm. (Whether on not they do.)

Yes exactly. People with CAIS are modified biological males. They would have produced sperm, did they not have the condition that makes their body not react to androgens. They do not produce ova and never will.

Some biological males such as them can fairly be legally treated as female, but their doctors MUST know they are not so they can treat them accordingly.

Such edge cases are complicated and should be evaluated case-by-case to determine a legal gender.

They vary too widely to be grouped together under a legal "intersex" category, and are too rare to have their own spaces such as prisons.

I suspect it matters to them. Which is why we bother to point out that "there are only two sexes" is wrong.

I'm not sure at this point why you are still arguing because you are only taking an ideological position and not proposing any solutions, which matters a lot more to such people than whatever people call them. Do you have anything meaningful to argue about in terms of how they should be treated, or are you only concerned with defending your talking point?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes exactly. People with CAIS are modified biological males.

I disagree. They're closer to females. Their genitalia look female, their body shape is more female.

I think you're using the DNA as a definition because you think that that's how you can support the thesis that there is only two sexes: The most reasonable approach given the reality of what we have in reality is to say that most people are male or female, but there is a range: Sex is bimodal not binary.

Such edge cases are complicated and should be evaluated case-by-case to determine a legal gender.

Yep. And in some cases, that evaluation is neither.

Do you have anything meaningful to argue about in terms of how they should be treated, or are you only concerned with defending your talking point?

The claim that "there are only two sexes" denies the existence of intersex people. That is not how they should be treated. At the very least they should be acknowledged.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you have any arguments on what your views should mean practically? I'm tired of arguing semantics.