More SaidIt GUI ideas/issues

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

I don't know if it's best to keep going or if splitting like this is encouraged or if it's just more shit piles to keep track of...

Anyway, I don't know why or how, but some posts are duplicated I don't expect a simple de-duplicator would be too difficult to code comparing the title and the body and the sub and if all three are a perfect match = delete one. Or better - merge them, if there are comments.

This one may not be as easy or maybe it's easier...

Reading through the "Newest" posts, below the blue or purple linked title in grey smaller text are the options "comment" "share" "save" "hide" "report". I don't mind that it's as "subdued" as it is. I actually think it's perfect. Except. It would be awesome if there was a distinction between "comments 0" and "comments #" so that I can ignore that line, though it's still there and visible for its options, unless someone has made at least 1 comment prompting me to want to click on it. What is this distinction? You decide. Does it get larger, get boxed like a button, get an icon, get brighter, get hyper-link coloured, get fluorescent pink and green alternating flashing letters... You decide how that "comments >0" might be more visible.

I'm guessing the background grey of the dark theme is just under #666666. No it's not a Satanic number and if you don't know this I don't have time to explain old RBG-Web colours to you. I've customized my FastStone image viewer backgrounds and other stuff to be darker between RBG 252525 to RBG 505050. While that may initially seem dramatically darker, it's actually not. And you might think that there might be problems distinguishing black over the dark dark RBG 252525 grey, I assure you that black #000000 is still very distinguishable. I would prefer it if you went dark dark over just darker, and we know to avoid black BG, but it's not my site. It's just my recommendation.

If you make the background darker you may want to make that smaller "subdued" slightly darker too in order to keep it subdued. For example, If you pushed the BG colour from RBG 505050 to RBG 252525 that's a difference of 25 so if the subdued (for lack of the actual term) text were RGB 100 100 100 you might shift it to RBG 75 75 75. Unless not subduing it is the only solution for my initial issue reading that line when comments > 0.

Also, FYI, not for anything in particular but just for future reference in web designing, colours with purpose help - a LOT. They don't even have to be huge distinctions. Not that I'm recommending this, but for example, you could tint various fields of grey with colours. A slightly yellower-grey would be different than a slightly bluer or redder or whatever grey. It will NOT look like any yellow but it will be yellower by the numbers with higher red and green than blue. Keep that in your back pocket and keep this in your front pocket... On my dark theme screen I see light grey text, mid grey text, mint green, sky blue, and very red text that says "there doesn't seem to be anything here". I think it's all perfect, (though it might be more accurate for it to say "There don't seem to be any comments here." as I'm writing this comment in the box above it.) To my point, all of these are very easy to read except the hot red colour. But that hot red serves the powerful purpose of grabbing my attention as it's the most important thing on this page. Highway signs are black and yellow because it's the most visible combination. White on black or hot red or hot green on black are actually more difficult to read. The red and green only use some of the cones in your eyes and the white is too hot and the glow will muddy the letters. Just as blue on black is low contrast to our eyes and therefore also difficult to read, yellow is still high contrast but the touch of colour acts as a glare filter. I have no proposed use for this (announcements? pinned posts? admin comments? warnings?), but if down the road you want to make anything important or stand out with colour and keep it legible, especially content more than a phrase, you might consider a light yellow over dark grey. The day mode inverse equivalent might be dark-orange-brown on white or light grey (rather than black on white). Other light colours are excellent as well but yellow is the best and while I actually find yellow on grey easier to read than grey on grey but I don't actually like seeing everything through a golden shower. In my FontStone image browser everything is greys on greys except the yellow under each image "1280x720 PNG" or whatever.

Do any folks use the "save" and "hide" functions? I've not tinkered with them.

I said SubDude.

[–]Mnemonic 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Anyway, I don't know why or how, but some posts are duplicated I don't expect a simple de-duplicator would be too difficult to code comparing the title and the body and the sub and if all three are a perfect match = delete one. Or better - merge them, if there are comments.

It's duplicated because it's posted in different subs 'de-duplicating' would mean censoring a (random?) sub of it's content that is probably relevant to it. Every duplicated link has a 'other discussions' tab (example: https://saidit.net/s/WorldPolitics/duplicates/88v/from_bitchute_patreon_part_two_our_appeal_was/)

Subs aren't only broad categories, some are personal blogs, scrapbooks or just a place for like minded people and therefor different discussions.

I don't know if it's best to keep going or if splitting like this is encouraged or if it's just more shit piles to keep track of...

Usually a thread is made to keep it all together, which makes it all easier.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Re: duplicates, good to know. I didn't realize. I suppose limiting it to one sub per post keeps folks from abusing the categories, intentionally or not, like could happen if they were classified by meta-tags. It finally makes a little sense why Steemit limits their tags to 5 which always bugged me.

Any chance the posts could be separate but their comments shared/merged/mirrored?

So long endless threads are common? At least on Reddit? (which I've rarely visited)

Easier is good. I'm still trying to work out my SaidIt "routine". Initially I was bouncing all over with a bunch of tabs open in my browser and a bunch of hibernated tabs that I'd check to see if anyone responded to my blinding brilliance. Now I've got my system with two main tabs, a few secondary hibernated tabs, and a handfull of others. My two main SaidIt tabs are "New" and "Comments" to catch all the recent gossip and from which I can pop open the articles and/or conversations. My secondary tabs are "Overview", "Messages", and my one sub, but now I see my overview lists my sub. I don't really even need the overview as my name is in the header. And I was awaiting feed back on message management to see if I could individually "mark as read".

How do you manage? Have any ergonomic/organizational tips? Do you use "save" or "hide"? It's not rocket science so maybe I'm pushing too hard for a nothing burger.

Thus far on SaidIt I've mostly seen short commentary threads on external articles, some internally based conversations, and a few longer discussions. Is that typical. I had expected more centralized long form ongoing conversations on a topic, but now I see it's different with subs being the topic.

One reason I'd never wanted to join Reddit was because when I did visit for one reason or another while doing research, I'd stumble into a forum-like discussion but because it was closed or archived I couldn't offer my two cents or answers to questions they had. If everything gets closed what's the point? Sure, I know that you can go to some forums that still have open conversations from over a decade ago, or even Wikipedia talk pages where you're supposed to discuss the content and controversies of the article (but not socialize!), - and you can add to these long-term discussions, just don't expect a timely response if ever.

On another note, and I want you (or anyone reading this) to be brutally honest. I know that I've been commenting a shit tonne and I feel like I'm dominating this site with what seems like a handful of regulars and another handful less regulars (who likely have jobs and lives, etc). As a noob I feel like a bull in a china shop. Or like a cat pissing all over my new territory. Obviously I feel compelled to do this but I also I care enough to ask if it's an imposition in any way. It's all new and weird to me. Though I often walk on eggshell on Wikipedia when in conflict with someone else about whatever. Maybe that's because I've been beaten into submission by being banned for a year, but then, I was self-conscious before that. I look forward to feedback, good bad or ugly.

Regardless of the feedback, I keep threatening to control my SaidIt addiction, and I will for all our sakes. Not because I won't be shooting off my mouth about this or that, but because of my mysterious projects I hope will elevate SaidIt, InfoGalactic, and most importantly minds everywhere. And I can't do that while reading articles that either reaffirm what I already know or learning new little (or big) details about the big picture corruption. I don't intend to abandon SaidIt, just focus and limit my time here. ...After I finish having fun with it for a while.

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while doing research, I'd stumble into a forum-like discussion but because it was closed or archived I couldn't offer my two cents or answers to questions they had.

This bugs me too, we don't archive here or it archives in 99 years or something.

I think a lot of people use Save for like bookmarking their favorite posts and comments (and it will soon allow choosing a category to save in for further organization). There is a counterproductive reddit limit of 1000 saves though, we need to boost that to unlimited here. I think Hide is for a single post and hardly anyone uses that.

As far as messaging, it's supposed to be self managing. The message icon turns orange, you click it to read, and then the message is automatically marked as read. We're always open to improvements but I don't think it's even used here very much.

I recommend a single saidit tab or you will slowly drive yourself insane with tab bloat, and end up having to switch browsers because you have 8 windows open with 50 tabs each. reddit is an ADD fest I don't know how to use it but I support research projects and intentional group investigations and bettering the experience.

SaidIt has so few users that people haven't fled off into subreddits to hang out in, so that's a unique element as well.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I can't tell you how happy I am to soon be able to sort my saves. I have only save one thing so far: The Juice Media thing. If I had discovered it soon I'm sure I would have saved a fucktonne.

"Tab bloat". I like that term. I had that early on. I was "tab constipated".

"reddit is an ADD fest". You're talking to Mr. ADD, but I don't think they like our kind there... ~TRUTHERS~ !

"Fled", you "SaidIt". Another term I like. I'll soon flee into my own subsaidit projects. I already missed half of yesterday and feel so far behind, and if it builds up enough backlog I'll eventually abandon my guilty need to "be informed of EVERYTHING". This has happened to me in every medium and platform all my life. I am a black hole but I need to invert it and spray my sunshine all over your faces.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice link. I've never seen that page working on saidit or tested it or anything. Whew.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

if you want to provide some css changes/overrides we'll check it out and consider using it. You could use custom css in your sub to do it or otherwise.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Right. I'd forgotten that. Nice. I changed my https://saidit.net/s/DecentralizeAllThings/ stylesheet.

In the process I discovered that the default SaidIt dark theme background colour is close to or exactly #333333.

Most pages don't have black text, but there is some small font black text with the url to my banner images, so I didn't got as dark as I might, event though I won't need to read that text. Going darker and still distinguishing black is still easy for graphics and normal or big text, but not small text.

I don't know how to NOT make it misinterpret the text...

header-bottom-left {

height: 50x;
padding-top: 165px;
background: url(%%The-Dark-Side-Of-The-Money-1600x200%%) no-repeat;
background-position: 50%

} body{ background-color: #282828; } .side { background-color: #111111; /*choose your sidebar background color */ }

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I found a bug.

I was trying to get flair to work and fucking around I found out why it wasn't. The chat box and sidebar on the right was over top and obscuring the save/delete buttons for each flair and preventing me from seeing or clicking some of them.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I wouldn't mind a chatbox expand/collapse option.

I would likely leave it open most of the time even if no one currently uses it and it's a waste of space, just in case someone actually says something and in case I actually see it in any timely fashion.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The flair editing form is terrible, assuming I'm even doing it correctly (I can't even get a font, background, border change, much less add an image). Is there a way to edit it like the CSS stylesheet?

The dozens of Reddit CSS help pages are shit. It's a wonder it's so popular. Ironically Quora had the best help page but it only explained what flair was, not how to change the things, and Quora fully banned me so I can't login with Google as REQUIRED to see other Quora pages which might actually help. FUCK QUORA, BRUTALLY!!! and their "moderators" and their lack of clear policies, rules, guides, instructions, or even specific explanations or recourse for banning me and stealing my work. Getting banned was not the first time I had problems there that were never ever explained, though through persistence I did discover some things how it worked and is rigged. If I recall correctly I was on Quora hard before I delved hard into Wikipedia.

It would be infinitely easier if it showed an example to copy, either displayed by default or by requests (ie. click on "help" or a "?") Multiple examples would be ideal featuring text options and image options.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think I finally found an example that makes sense in this image: https://i.imgur.com/zk1do.png

I was trying to add the stylesheet code on the right into the CSS class on the left of the image. If I understand it as it appears, I didn't realize that setting up the flair is one thing and the CSS is separate and not to be input in the flair set up. NO ONE explains this.

I really hope this works...

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Finally got the fundamentals of it. Not easy or intuitive. Shit documentation. And I hate when CSS or HTML or whatever give you different results when you change the order and it should not matter.

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Welcome to reddit/said it :)

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I should have started on YouTube. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better.