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The issue is, I've done this for many years now. Starting with creationists some 15-20 years ago. The fact is I've never seen any shred of evidence a particular kind of person wants to actually have a discussion. You must've seen this, they rove around in groups and mass-report people trying to debate them on places like Twitter or Youtube. Platforms actively unlist and derank critics of certain ideologies, and the result is you're flipping a coin hoping the rush to implement the mobs demands doesn't backfire. And the mob doesn't want to talk.

A perfect example here is qualified immunity. It is being and has been abused, but do you really think the ideal solution is totally removing it? How many people do you think would want to be a public servant if making a mistake now makes you legally liable for the consequences? Qualified immunity has far reaching consequences way beyond just the police.

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    If you are willing to concede the problem of the mob effects writ large, then you surely understand my immense cynicism after so long an experience on a variety of topics. If you start to feel homeless intellectually, and isolated socially, it just gets worse from there. Of course I think this cynicism is very well deserved. Of course I don't want to argue these ridiculous same topics for the 500th time in a row. It starts to feel like every day is the same, and that you're in an insane asylum.

    If I knew what to do about it, I'd be doing it. Pretending it isn't a problem has not been an option for me for a while now. Sometimes I think maybe, just maybe, if I talk about it, something might change or I'll reach some other understanding. So far that has not been the case.

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      I can already guess. Propagandists immediately get bored and lose steam when people stop giving them attention. Trolls too. Nobody with high dark triad traits would stick around if they weren't guaranteed attention they crave on some level.