GenderCritical sub still showing up on /s/all New. Is that intended behavior?

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[–]pussytroll 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

In the end, it's pretty sad that we've come to a point in society where one, we deny people the right to free speech, and two, we don't know wtf a woman is (because let's be real, most of this gender mumbo jumbo is aimed at women. I don't see it anywhere near the same extent towards men).

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's affecting women more for two reasons:

  1. MTF has long been more common than FTM. There's good reason to believe this is strongly influenced by biology.
  2. Women are higher than men in the progressive stack, rendering 'female' a more desirable identity in the oppressed/oppressor dichotomy of identity politics.

Ultimately this comes down to social constructionism and postmodernism. Gender is positioned as being socially constructed. The idea that gender can be decoupled from sex really kicked-off in the 1950s with Money, among others, leading the charge. Postmodernism applied social constructivist thought, adding the idea that all truth is subjective and personal. Chuck in some Marxism and critical theory and you have this nonsensical thinking that has long since unmoored itself from reality. There's a reason why Wikipedia articles on these ideologies/movements always reference feminism, as they were readily adopted by most feminist thinkers and feminist movements. Feminism was one of a few genetically linked ideologies that led us to where we are now. Not all feminists are intersectionality, although most of that camp were happy enough until transgender men climbed to the top of the progressive stack, at which point some feminists began hurling cats and blaming patriarchy for being dethroned. This idea that patriarchy, seen as a conservative mode of thought, would be interested in seeing men become women is laughable and readily rebutted by pointing to feminism's ideological lineage and role in fostering identity politics. All significant intersectionality theorists, at least so far as I can see, are drawn from feminist and/or Marxist schools of thought.

[–]pussytroll 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What type of feminism are you referring to here? Because when I see men (what I'm assuming you are) blaming feminism in any way, it's usually not the type of feminism they should be blaming. If you're talking about 3rd wave, liberal feminism, then I'd say I agree, to an extent.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Second wave onwards. Third wave didn't appear out of nowhere. All the elements required for intersectionality (e.g. postmodernism, social constructionism, and the oppressor/oppressed worldview derived from Marxist thought) were there in second wave feminism. In the context of second wave these were used to describe how women are perpetually oppressed by males through societal construction of gender and gender roles. If women truly can do everything then it follows that so can men, and some men became women.

Not all feminists subscribe to intersectionality, although it's quite noticeable that dissenters, previously content with the change, seem to have increased in numbers when the ideological view led to a small percentage of primarily white heterosexual men finding their way to the top of the progressive stack. It was at this point the implications became rather clear, with lesbians who refuse to have sex with transgender women becoming bigots and the male invasion of previously female-only spaces.

[–]pussytroll 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everything you said in the first paragraph is 100% wrong lol.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We know what a man and a woman is, and we've known since we've been old enough to know which one has the who-ha and which has the other one. It's just "triggering" to the mental health of the mentally ill to say it plainly.

Women do bear the brunt of it, because they're mere existence is a threat that exposes the "toxic mimicry" that transwomen very often are (as opposed to being simply neuro-divergent, or victims of abuse, or mentally ill)