There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed.

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[–]teelo 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

They were following Rule 4 until they appointed /u/homeless-g_c-mod as a moderator who immediately went and removed all the dissenting comments.

Welcome to Saidit. You cannot remove dissenting opinions here unless you remove the entire sub from /all.

Edit: look at this ban:

an hour ago homeless-g_c-mod banned Marou (permanent: Spam: "I don't think we should ban abortion at all. It should be used eugenically." Nope)

Banned someone for expressing an opposing view. Clear violation of Rule 4.

[–]homeless-g_c-mod 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Except we've moved the sub from all and we're building the sidebar as we speak. It's a GC community and eugenics is not a GC ideology

[–]teelo 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

You haven't changed the sidebar to announce you will remove dissenting opinions. And even when you do, that doesn't allow you to remove comments posted from before you updated the sidebar and took your sub off /all.

Now, reapprove all my comments you removed. Welcome to Saidit.

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wow, what a meaningful and productive stand to be making.

Not at all a useless, petty power-trip. . . You must be fun at parties.

[–]teelo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

How is it a power-trip when I'm not in any position of power?

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm only talking about the hyper-specific instance of you wanting a post put back up that no one on that sub wants to read. You're wanting it put up on a technicality. It won't change anyone's mind. It won't make anything better.

[–]teelo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Welcome to a free-speech website.

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But, really, it's not. It's a free speech commons with the ability to create side-zones with further restrictions. They have now complied with the rules and so can remove further text with impunity. So, you're wanting a one-off technicality. That's definition of a petty (ie small) gesture. It doesn't get any smaller.

You of course have a right to futile and stupid gestures. I just also have a right to point out they are such.

But, yeah, I'm here for a reason. There should always be a free-speech commons, there should not be shadow bans, and there should not be manipulation of what hits the front page. Getting to say you're being a dick is a bonus. Mmm. . . yummy free speech in the free speech area.

[–]holy_goat 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is an interesting start to season 2. I'm gonna go make some popcorn.

[–]theoracle 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You believe in the advance of certain genes over others, xx over xy, that is the definition of eugenics

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

are they still on /all though? I thought they said they took themselves off /all. I hope they will edit their sidebar to make it clear the mods remove opinions they don't like.

[–]teelo 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

2 hours ago gparmesan edited settings (toggle allow in default/trending lists)

Yup you're right. They removed themselves from /all, but not until 2 hours after they did a wave of censorship. So that mod still broke Rule 4 by not waiting. And they don't mention they will remove dissenting opinions on the sidebar either, so they're still breaking Rule 4 anyway.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

so they're still breaking Rule 4 anyway.

That's probably technically true, but imo it's appropriate to give new subs some leeway here as they adjust. I do think admins should be helping with this and making sure new subs are following the site policies more than they seem to be, though.

[–]teelo 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They also shouldn't be removing dissenting opinions that were posted while the sub was still appearing on /all.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Personally I disagree, but you can take it up with either of the admins.