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[–]ActuallyNot 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I think that the British system is better where only police in dangerous areas, or specifically trained firearms units, carry guns.

All this shootings by police is counterproductive on every level: Respect and trust for the police, crime investigation. When it happens to minorities it seeds interracial violence and hate crimes, and contributes to creating a vigilante culture where police are not used.

The officer wasn't under any threat. Charges might stick if any are brought.

[–]IMissPorn 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I sort of agree, but it's not worth giving up our guns for, and unarmed police probably aren't realistic otherwise.

Personally I'd just like use of deadly force to be seen as a career ending failure. Their job is to catch criminals, not kill 'em. Some guy rushed you with a knife so you killed him to save your own skin? Understandable, but you're not cut out for this job. Rare exceptions can be made for hostage situations, stopping active shooters and suchlike, but killing in self defense, while sufficient to avoid criminal liability, should not be considered a normal or acceptable part of police work.

Of course some times (like this case) it's pretty hard to even justify self defense, but as I see it the more important point is that if they're shooting people they're not doing their job right.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

it's not worth giving up our guns for

Yeah, god forbid that Americans be safe from armed criminal gangs, the police (but I repeat myself), accidental shootings and trannies rampaging through schools killing kids.

So how many tyrannies have you overthrown yet? Couldn't even stop the 2020 election from being stolen.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Overthrowing them would be great, but we're holding them at bay better than a lot of places at least. Look at the lockdowns for instance. Once the government knows you're helpless they turn oppression up to 11, where as we only got like 6 or something here.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

we're holding them at bay better than a lot of places at least.

America is the land of the free. Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

Regardless of whether Kang or Kodos is in power, the US literally is ruled for the benefit of megacorps and the banks. Your country is a literal police state with more police agencies, and a larger number of people in prison, than any other country. The NSA literally records every phone call you make, every email you send, every fax you send (back when people sent faxes). The FBI spies on anyone and everyone, and entraps people into criminal activity, and the courts go along with it. The regulatory agencies are owned by the corporations they're supposed to be regulating. Big companies making billions in profits get given free money by the wheelbarrow full while small mom-and-pop businesses drown under regulations. You have the worst, and most expensive, medical care in the developed world. There is no transparency in how your elections are run, both parties are dirty as fuck. Both parties spend so much money on the military that sometimes even the generals say that they don't know what to do with the money. You have virtually no industry except Wall Street.

You live in a fascist state where every four years you get to vote for a figurehead, but nothing important changes. Whoever wins, Kang or Kodos, they will distract you with stupid culture wars over trivialities like pronouns, abortion, "the War On Christmas" and other bullshit while they rule for the sole benefit of the elite 0.1%.

Look at the lockdowns for instance.

Sweden says hello.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most not all.