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Occupy Wall Street was largely a failure, forgotten by history.
submitted 7 months ago by Mr9to5 from self.MeanwhileOnReddit
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[–]Tom_Bombadil 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun - 7 months ago (14 children)
It wasn't forgotten by the banksters.
They immediately created "identity politics" to divide and conquer the unified pubic.
Prior to this, it was uncommon for people to say retarded statements like, "As a _______, I blah blah blah."
It's still stupid. Identifying as a political group is foolish. Everyone is an individual.
Act in your own ethical self interest, and things will average out.
[–]Ethnocrat 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun - 7 months ago (0 children)
(((banksters)))
[–]topiary2 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 7 months ago (3 children)
Exactly the comment I was expecting. People don't realize identity politics was largely driven by occupy.
Now the banksters wave the gay flag and have all the support from the useful idiots they could ever want
[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 7 months ago (1 child)
You are wrong about occupy being driven by identity polotics. It was destroyed by identity politics. That was the subversion strategy wallstreet used to divide and conquer them. It wasn't until well into the protest that it started to creep in. That is when people started getting on the megaphones and preached social justice and demanded "reparations" and special considerations for their opressed group.
[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 7 months ago (0 children)
It was destroyed by identity politics. That was the subversion strategy wallstreet used to divide and conquer them. It wasn't until well into the protest that it started to creep in.
This.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 6 months ago (0 children)
So you're saying I shouldn't hate trannies and gays who shove their lifestyle down my throat just because it's a purposely divisive tactic the banksters or whoever-the-fuck created?
[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 7 months ago (2 children)
It wasn't forgotten by the banksters. They immediately created "identity politics" to divide and conquer the unified pubic. Prior to this, it was uncommon for people to say retarded statements like, "As a _______, I blah blah blah."
Are you... really young?
Yes, in the '90s it was perfectly common for people to say "As a _______, I blah blah blah." It had more of a "that's interesting" than "that's important" vibe, but it wasn't uncommon.
The current wave of identity-politics-all-the-time really began in 2014. Many people say that Tumblr was ground zero, though it quickly spread everywhere. OWS was three years earlier.
I don't think identity politics was foisted upon us by organized agents. I think it was just our culture losing its shit. Partly because this was around the time that Obergefell was being decided and, as a result, American Christianity was completely losing its status as a political force.
[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 7 months ago (1 child)
/u/Hematomato Are you a new sock puppet alt?
[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 7 months ago (0 children)
Nah, I'm new here. Came over from Squabblr and Discuit when they turned out to be terrible.
[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 7 months ago (1 child)
And interestingly they now crop out the Indian guy from that famous pic of the bankers looking down on Occupy
https://imgur.com/a/8MWjtD2
Yeah. Doesn't fit the narrative of "white = bad".
[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 7 months ago (3 children)
"Stakeholder Capitalism" goes way back to the 90s.
[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 7 months ago (2 children)
Where was it used? Do you have a source?
[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 7 months ago (1 child)
Only my memory, but you could just go digging around in the WSJ archives of the era to find articles about it. I'm not denying that something changed which made the confluence of leftwing identity politics and practical neoliberalism more visible in the 20-teens. I'm just saying that it had been moving in that direction since at least the 90s, during the whole RATM era.
I have an anecdote. Back then there was an "anarchist" prank-comedy outfit riding the coattails of Michael Moore called the Yes Men. Their big stunt was to get space at a WTO conference to present a plan for offshoring labor to Africa, using neoliberal jargon to essentially propose plantation slavery. It was kind of a self-own because what they described was setting African workers up in little soviets with socialist benefits using language meant to appease marxoids.
it's possible that it was mentioned at that time. Maybe as an arrow in their quiver.
I specifically recall it being deployed during the 99% awakening.
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