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[–]passionflounder 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll petition to have your house taken over by the bank who will blow it down."

[–]makesyoudownvote 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Oh Woah!

This scene is apparently almost the entire basis by the way for the widespread belief that Walt Disney was anti-semetic. In his personal life he was actually very embracing of different religions and cultures relative to the time.

That's it. Really. Look it up sometime.

He employed and was friends with many jewish people, and by their accounts never did anything wrong outside of contemporary standards. Hell by the standards of this site he was practically a philosemite. Yet this is enough justification for Meryl Fucking Streep to go on a rant about him.

Was he racist, sexist and anti-semetic by today's standards? Sure, but everyone even 5 years ago is if we are honest with ourselves. Disney started 100 years ago for God's sake!

I hadn't seen the two scenes side by side like this, but I can kinda see how people thought this was anti-semetic. I just think that's a stretch though to anyone who understands contemporary cartoons and how they worked at the time. The whole idea was the exaggerate stereotypes. It played with racism and stereotypes in a disarming and jovial way, much like how sketch cartoonists will exaggerate your features like buck teeth or pouty lips.

Also this is a wolf in disguise. He's disguised as a door to door salesmen, and the long nose is clearly to hide his own long nose just like wolves have. The Jewish stereotype just happens to physically match the wolves features, which in itself is the joke. There isn't anything inherently anti-semetic about it, just like if he was wearing sheep's clothing it wouldn't be caprinaephobic. It undoubtedly adds complexity and tension to the scene, and is better in it's original uncensored version.

[–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

This is a cultural/christian reference to "wolves in sheeps clothing", also known as Jews. The reference is about how jews are subversive and deceptive, which they are. Their deception and subversion don't work work when people know about them.

Most of European children stories were about making the children notice the patterns of the jew. From vampires, wolves, shapeshifting werewolves, witches and so on. They're all references to jews.

[–]makesyoudownvote 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I'm not sure if I believe that. This is sort of that horseshoe theory thing, because that sounds a lot like how the left tends to justify these things. All that cloak and dagger, "dog whistle" racism is everywhere, just always masked sort of thing.

Vampires predate even Jews, and the modern vampire origin of Dracula clearly isn't Jewish.

Also if you look at the mythos, they actually seem to have more to do with disease than anything else. Silver, garlic and running water are all ways of preventing diseases.

There is undoubtedly some overlap. I don't doubt that said myths have been used to create fear and distinction from other races, ethnicities and religions, but I think to call it THE reason is inaccurate.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol. It's funny seeing the things I used to believe being typed out by other people. Makes me so grateful for the ideas I stumbled on that brought me away from this Jewish trash.

[–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s because the archetype of the “devious swindler” and its historical resemblance to stereotypical Jewish facial features is deeply rooted in the shared mythology of the west. It mainly stems from the fact that many Jews who were in diaspora during the late Middle Ages were the only people allowed to work in finance because usury was disallowed by the church.

This caused most in the developing west to view them as at best a necessary evil and at worst a parasite. It morphed into what we have today over long periods of time so subtly that it is indistinguishable from our cultural mythos.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Garlic is anti PARASITIC. Vampires fear the cross. Vampires drain the life blood of their victims. Vampires can't see themselves in the mirrors (lack introspection, narcissist + hypocrisy, jewish stereotype)

Watch the first vampire movie and tell me it's not a jew (it is based on the jewish stereotype)

And in case you haven't heard it before. Jews are parasites and drink the blood of Christian children. You may disagree, but that's the historical stereotype which these stories are based upon.

Try looking up old Hansel and Gretel stories and look at the depictions of the witch. It's a jew and they put her in an oven. Heard of that anywhere else?

Red head and the wolf?
She has to walk on the path (Jesus: I am the path, life and the truth) but she gets deceived by a wolf (false preacher).

What I'm saying here used to be common knowledge. Anti semitism was the norm.

[–]Clown_Chan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lol you are so wrong.

Like makesyoudownvote said, stories about Vampires predate jews, they existed even before jews entered Europe.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the super-old school Grimm's Fairy Tales, there is a whole section about Jews. The stories do what fairy tales always do: tell stories to warn children about dangers they will face. The Jew section was no different.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And do these vampires die from the cross? Die from garlic? Can't see themselves in the mirror? And so on? I doubt those "vampire stories" had all these jew references in them.

[–]Clown_Chan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree

Vampires have nothing to do with jews.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

According to antisemitists, the jews control the media along with everything else... but here we're led to believe they would also let media "warn" everyone of their supposedly villainous facial features?

Which is it, buckaroos?

[–]xoenix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But they don't eat pork.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Except vampires like Dracula are based off of Vlad The Impaler which(unless you believe they're hiding his jewish roots) wasn't jewish.Big nose doesn't mean jewish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler You also have no evidence for wolves and shapeshifting werewolves being about jews except assumptions.

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    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Which still doesn't mention anything about jews.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Dracula was one vampire. The mythology of the blood-sucker is well established.

    Vlad was based.

    [–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Hitler made Disney an honorary general in his army for the fairy tales Disney turned into German-based cartoons.

    [–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This is true. Hitler loved Disney, and Disney loved Germany. But Disney did not love Hitler or the Nazis.

    [–]Brewdabier 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well I bet Disney was forced to make the change, Germans went through the same "censorship".

    [–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)