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[–]CanisRex 15 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 7 fun -  (30 children)

11-year old incest rape victims being forced to bear children, women with ectopic non-viable pregnancies dying due to being forced to carry, women who have miscarriages being prosecuted for murder, and rapists getting paternal rights to their children. But yeah, if only those whores would keep their legs shut

Practically no abortions are the result of these situations - the fraction that are are statistically irrelevant. No one argues that abortions aren't warranted in those situations. Wait until you're a parent and understand the sort of horror seeing mid and late term abortions causes for mothers and fathers before you think this is bad. Also, telling people to practice some personal responsibility is not a bad thing - getting pregnant is eminently preventable.

All in all, a victory for the rights of the unborn.

[–]jet199 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I literary saw the plastic paddy on the Tim Pool podcast argue exactly that a couple of weeks ago.

Saying "No one argues that" is so lazy and dishonest.

Maybe take a your head out of your arse and look at what people are arguing rather than assuming you know.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Part of what bothers me is that the ignorance of /u/CanisRex and other asshoes is a central philosophy of a minority in the US that has now overturned RvW; that basic human rights in the US have been abused because of this ignorant, fascist, extremist minority, manipulated with Big Corp and GOP misinformation, as part of their plan in the past 40 years to continue the 'banana republic' style of the exploitation of the 99% for temporary profit.

[–]CanisRex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

blah blah big corp blah blah GOP

Its so much simpler than that. Rights only extend as far as another person's rights. Murdering a baby would be a good example of infringing on another person's rights.

If you're so worried about women, you should be much more concerned at the government sanctioned gender cult. Men in women's spaces is a much greater threat to women's rights than the ability to fuck without worrying about becoming pregnant.

Its ok, though - because nullifying roe v wade didn't outlaw abortion. It just delegated the decision to the states. Which is how the fucking constitutional republic actually functions. You can still go to NY or California to murder babies, don't worry.

Its always hilarious to me that the reddi - i mean 'saiditors' who like to toss out personal attacks and insults are generally the most out of touch with reality.

ignorant

fascist

Infuckingdeed.

The idea that the SCOTUS actually banned abortion

and More centralized regulation.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you're trying too hard

nothing redeemable about you

[–]CanisRex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ok

[–]IMissPorn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

No one argues that abortions aren't warranted in those situations.

This unfortunately is not true at all. Many people consider abortion murder. From that perspective, rape and incest have no bearing on the situation. Abortion to save the life of the mother might be acceptable, since self defense is about the only justification for homicide, but I'm sure there are extremists who would say not even then. Women have already been prosecuted for miscarriage too, incidentally, and I expect that to increase.

[–]CanisRex 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

don't get me wrong, abortions in those situations would only be acceptable immediately after the assault - like as in a week or so - and I 100% consider them murder.

I don't think that abortions for women who were just irresponsible are acceptable AT ALL. Ever. At any stage in the pregnancy. As I said, its eminently preventable. Between abstinence, condoms, HBC, and Plan B - birth control is 100 percent effective. If you create a life, it is yours to protect - a mother killing her unborn child because she failed to practice any restraint, personal responsibility, or just common sense, as a human adult is the very epitome of degeneracy and social decline.

All that said...the overturning of Roe v Wade is not the horrible end of civilization event that everybody is whining about. Its delegating the funding/legality of abortions to the state level which is completely reasonable. The only thing that will change in most states is where the money is coming from to fund them - it'll be state taxes now instead of federal taxes.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

don't get me wrong, abortions in those situations would only be acceptable immediately after the assault - like as in a week or so - and I 100% consider them murder.

“Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin." Deuteronomy 24:16

[–]CanisRex 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

<3

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    [–]CanisRex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Seethe harder.

    I'll pray for you, though.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Bullshit

    [–]CanisRex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    no really, i just did. I prayed that you would have the strength to let go of your anger and open your mind to other possibilities aside from what social media has told you.

    [–]TooMuchClay 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    No, not many, simply untrue. Pro-lifers believe in the case of real danger to the mother saving her life comes first. Weirdo outliers that believe evil shit are not an example against the whole. I've met leftos that actually believe the Catholic Church used to burn witches. I don't other progressives on their ignorance.

    Read a little more what other opinions are before representing them. I.e. I understand the pro-choice concerns regards reproductive rights. And it's a valid concern and worth listening to

    [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    Women have already been prosecuted for miscarriage too

    That is so obviously propaganda. Do you seriously not understand that they called it a miscarraige when it was in fact an abortion?

    [–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    See? That's the kind of attitude I'm worried about. Miscarriages happen, shockingly often actually, people just don't like to talk about it. If in even 1% of cases people look at the circumstances say "obviously an abortion" that's a huge risk for injustice.

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Obviously misscairages happen, but the law does not allow the government to arbitrarily claim it was malicious. They obviously had proof that this was not a legitimate misscairage.

    [–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I wish the government were as reasonable as you think it is. Don't trust it much myself.

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There is no money to be made in this.

    [–]ID10T 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I have some personal experience with abortion. It is certainly not something to be taken lightly. I think that late term abortions should be illegal except for extraordinary circumstances, e.g. the baby will be stillborn or suffer from horrific birth defects. However the horrors that will unfold when all abortion is made illegal I believe is beyond your comprehension.

    There will be cases here like Ireland's case regarding the death of Savita Halapannavar which ultimately caused that country to overturn their ban on abortion.

    More if you're interested in possibly seeing the other side of the equation

    https://www.irishamerica.com/2022/06/abortion-legal-ireland/

    [–]CanisRex 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    beyond your comprehension.

    you sure about that? My comprehension is pretty far reaching.

    death of Savita Halapannavar

    Give me a proportion of situations like this to actual abortions. I think it'll be good for you to do the leg work.

    ossibly seeing the other side of the equation

    I am indeed not interested. I feel bad for my family in the UK - they've fallen so far over there - you have a practical nanny state.

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    If it is ok to kill someone who is trying to kill you why is it bad for a mother to die from killing her child?

    [–]Smarterthanlastweek2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It is certainly not something to be taken lightly.

    yeah?

    [–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Well this comment aged like milk. 😂 Guess I was wrong about the age...

    https://www.newsweek.com/shes-10-child-rape-victims-abortion-denial-sparks-outrage-twitter-1721248

    [–]CanisRex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    3 things wrong with that. 1 - pregnant assaulted 10 year olds do not happen regularly - and I'm sure no one disagrees with that instance being valid for abortion 2 - abortions haven't been outlawed - the legislation and funding has been delegated to state levels. This is literally how a constitutional republic works. Lastly - the timing and verbiage of the original article that this example is using make me seriously doubt the veracity of the claim. Its rage/click bait.

    Try some critical thought, numb nuts.

    [–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Critical thinking = denying any example that counters my beliefs

    Apparently...

    [–]CanisRex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    No, its critical thinking.

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

    This is the source for all the articles on that claim. Dubious at best.

    [–]ID10T 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This story has now been proven true and more representatives are going on record that the 10-year-old should have been forced to carry the baby. There are now representatives saying that there should be no exceptions, including when the pregnancy will threaten the life of the mother. In fact, a pregnant child's life is in danger as their body isn't developed enough to carry a baby without significant risk. This is pretty horrific stuff.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/15/abortion-exceptions-republicans/

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No, its critical thinking.

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

    This is the source for all the articles on that claim. Dubious at best.

    3 things wrong with that. 1 - pregnant assaulted 10 year olds do not happen regularly - and I'm sure no one disagrees with that instance being valid for abortion

    Oh look heres another, and this guy does disagree, a 12 year old raped by her dad, not dubious at all, the Mississippi House Speaker is on the record being against it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10975943/Mississippi-House-Speaker-opposes-abortion-12-year-old-girl-raped-impregnated-father.html

    [–]CanisRex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    ok again...the daily mail is garbage.

    Secondly, one ignorant mississippi delegate's opinion does not make something common. Any reasonable person would agree that an abortion in that instance could be considered care and not infanticide.

    Additionally - Mississippi's law allow exception for this case as cited in your article

    "Mississippi's current legislation permits for an abortion in cases of rape but does not allow an exception for incest."