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[–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think that's significantly worse than banning zerohedge, which has promoted Russian propaganda.

This is an important point that needs to be understood when reading ZH. Zerohedge definitely adopts elements of Russian propaganda. I say this as a follower of the site. So do Infowars and Breitbart. All these sources align too often with what is found on RT for coincidence.

I will not deny a connection between ZH and Russia, nor with these other sites and Russia. As a matter of fact, I read RT as well, which is why I'm confident ZH and the others are indeed aligned with the Russian government position.

But here's the thing. While all governments have a bias, that doesn't mean that what they say is guaranteed to be wrong. As I said in my above comment, the reason I continue to read ZH - even with my internal assumption that they are associated with Russian propaganda - is that they continue to be proven correct time and time again. In their analyses of events both domestic and abroad, the stories they are presenting are initially virulently attacked, and then very often - within a couple of years - they become mainstream fact, accepted by the dominant media.

The US establishment - as represented here on saidit by Socks - paints a very simple picture: if a site like ZH says it, it is by definition a lie, in the words of Socks, "a shitpost".

That doesn't fly. I repeat I have been following the Hunter Biden story for 8 years now, and sure as hell ZH was right from the beginning. There are so many stories where I can dig into Zerohedge's reporting and discover the flagrant lies being told by the subjects of that reporting I can no longer count. Many of those stories, btw, are with regard to Russia. Look into the Magnitsky act and the role of Bill Browder. Zerohedge has been absolutely correct on that story. These are not "(s)he said / (s)he said" situations. The stories I'm talking about are places where the same damned person says one thing and then 18 months later 180 degrees says the opposite thing. Bill Browder under oath tells a very different story about Magnitsky than he told congress to get the Magnitsky Act passed.

So yes, Zerohedge is aligned with Russia.

What about the many many times that we are discovering that Russia was right?

Serious food for thought.

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I agree. I also read RT occasionally and frequently ZeroHedge. It's certainly not all crap, but there has been some egregious propaganda and that's worth keeping in mind. But reading different country's news is a great way to get the feel for what's bullshit in our own.

Russian interests, even though I admire their anti-globohomo stance, are not American interests. They are not my interests. And on that point, I consider u/socks an internet friend, his penchant for egregious liberal propaganda and being wrong about pretty much everything aside, he's not a bad dude. However, his interests are also certainly not America's.