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[–]EvilNick 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Im a hard working center conservative (fiscally) who has none, never wanted any nor thinks people should get tax credits for having kids. Technically people with kids should be taxed more while I get to keep my money since Ill never need to use schools, programs, or services children need. Im sick of parents using these tax loopholes. Parents need to pay their fair share!

[–]wecandobetter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Agreeeeeeed. Why should a family benefit more from services, yet pay less taxes at the same time?? No wonder the US public mostly hates new social benefits programs - the average income earner knows damn well that they'll never receive any benefit from it themselves.

[–]EvilNick 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

exactly, why work harder when they just find ways to take it and give it to others? whats the point. I decided to not have kids. People who decide to should take on full financial responsibility. Its ridiculous. You CHOSE that life, dont inconvenience me.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Without kids, you have more money to spare, though. Tax credits don't usually make that up, but welfare might, and that's the bigger problem here.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, I don't want to pay into social security so that some degenerate boomer can hork down boner pills and get a medical grade penis pump covered under medicare when I'm never going to see those SS benefits myself either, but what can ya do?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Those services indirectly benefit those who don't use them, because most people who go to school, for example, use that experience to find jobs.

[–]wecandobetter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes we've all heard the argument. But that's not how people operate. I agree the entire society should pay for education, because we live here and want society to work. HOWEVER, those USING the services actively should at the very least not be paying far LESS than those who don't. If you want people to support social programs, they need to feel a chance to directly benefit from them...or at least not feel like their eyeballs are getting fucked out.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They do pay more later if they get a good-paying job.

[–]wecandobetter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If if if if when maybe intangible benefits blah blah blah