The type of people who do not want to have children.

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[–]EvilNick 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Im a hard working center conservative (fiscally) who has none, never wanted any nor thinks people should get tax credits for having kids. Technically people with kids should be taxed more while I get to keep my money since Ill never need to use schools, programs, or services children need. Im sick of parents using these tax loopholes. Parents need to pay their fair share!

[–]wecandobetter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Agreeeeeeed. Why should a family benefit more from services, yet pay less taxes at the same time?? No wonder the US public mostly hates new social benefits programs - the average income earner knows damn well that they'll never receive any benefit from it themselves.

[–]EvilNick 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

exactly, why work harder when they just find ways to take it and give it to others? whats the point. I decided to not have kids. People who decide to should take on full financial responsibility. Its ridiculous. You CHOSE that life, dont inconvenience me.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Without kids, you have more money to spare, though. Tax credits don't usually make that up, but welfare might, and that's the bigger problem here.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, I don't want to pay into social security so that some degenerate boomer can hork down boner pills and get a medical grade penis pump covered under medicare when I'm never going to see those SS benefits myself either, but what can ya do?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Those services indirectly benefit those who don't use them, because most people who go to school, for example, use that experience to find jobs.

[–]wecandobetter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes we've all heard the argument. But that's not how people operate. I agree the entire society should pay for education, because we live here and want society to work. HOWEVER, those USING the services actively should at the very least not be paying far LESS than those who don't. If you want people to support social programs, they need to feel a chance to directly benefit from them...or at least not feel like their eyeballs are getting fucked out.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They do pay more later if they get a good-paying job.

[–]wecandobetter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If if if if when maybe intangible benefits blah blah blah

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Child tax credits enable people to take care of their kids — and will help to reverse our declining birth rate. The obvious problem is exploitation, because a lot of parents have, like, eight kids just because it helps them make more money (but this is usually for welfare, not tax credits).

Some people, quite a few in my area, have kids or adopt them just so they can get more money on the first, so they can go down-town and spend it on meth. But the obvious solution is to take their kids away, sterilize them, and ban them from adoption.

And this probably wouldn't be a problem is we didn't tax low-income households at all, and just used a UBI instead of welfare.

I'm left-wing economically and right-wing socially, which is why we disagree. I'm more of a Progressive-Conservative than a "true" Conservative.

[–]EvilNick 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you decide to have a kid then you should assume the responsibility it needs. I should not be forced to pay more than someone with kids because they decided they wanted them. No on needs children, you want them. People keep complaining about global warming. Wanna stop that, have less people.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So would you consider a sterilization program put into place for those that want to opt out of paying taxes into social programs? I don't know how they could parse things out, but honestly I don't see why it would be a problem if you're still paying taxes for things you're able to take advantage of. Either that or receiving part of it back as a tax credit.

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure why not.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I just think it's quite boring that women have to continually justify to themselves why they don't want kids, and go on reddit to tell each other, while men who don't want kids just don't have kids.

[–]wecandobetter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Doesn't this just prove that the correlations between Childfree and most of the things you listed there are pretty low?

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He probably cherry-picked the results. He didn't give us a scale or method, so there's no way to know what any of this actually means.

[–]Fitter_Happier 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm actually fairly sympathetic to most of these groups NOT wanting kids. If you're massively depressed or sick, it makes sense to not have kids, for everybody's sake.

[–]Galthran 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like the poverty and jobless ones. Grew up with a poor mother and I can see how limiting it can be for a child.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You don't give us a scale or your methodology, so there's no way to know what a 10.01 point "overlap" means.

[–]censorshipment 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/childfree

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nice, thanks. r/dogs has a higher overlap than most of these, so he definitely cherry-picked the results.

[–]akkordeonplayer 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, these are the top results I'm finding. And it's not surprising women would discuss having and not having children on a dating forum.

34.82 antinatalism
14.20 justnomil
14.19 femaledatingstrategy
11.48 raisedbynarcissists
11.25 askwomenover30
10.17 fatlogic
10.01 inceltear
9.48 trollxchromosomes
9.09 badwomensanatomy
8.98 antimlm
8.57 exchristian
8.42 askwomenadvice
8.16 cptsd

[–]reddugee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oops. Forgot:

11.38 raisedbynarcissists
10.98 askwomenover30
8.61 exchristian
8.44 askwomenadvice
7.93 twoxchromosomes
7.26 entitledparents
6.73 botchedsurgeries
5.76 marriage
5.62 insaneparents
5.55 religiousfruitcake