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[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Tomboy, butch, dyke, and stud are all words that are used to describe women who are masculine. The rest are trans terms.

[–]SailorMoon2020 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

My point exactly. The fact masculine women can't simply be women is the route of the problem.

Although I think it's funny more people are asking, "what's gonna happen to Umbrella Academy" than El. Goes to show most don't give a fuck what El chooses to call themselves.

[–]reader 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, the core problem is coding particular women traits and presentation as masculine. The fact, that women can't just have shaved head or wear suits etc. without being called masculine. The rest just follow.

[–]Lesbianvodkaaunt 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Ok that’s what I’ve been thinking tbh. Don’t care what they call themselves I just wanna know if they’re gonna keep playing their role on Umbrella Academy...

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Vanya is canonically a female lesbian, I'll be really bummed if they butcher the character..

[–]VioletRemi 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Netflix love to put transgenders into homosexual relationshiops (like recently one canonically gay man, who previously tried to sleep with women and was disgusted, now started dating transman and is enjooying PiV sex).

So maybe here they will trans lesbian relationship too? Like "now Vanya is a man". Vanya is slavic male name, by the way, not sure why it is so often used as female name in western and asian media.

[–]paleolithicat 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hahaha that was funny! Oh well, the sort of funny where you have to cry if it becomes true.

I come from a Slavic speaking country and can confirm that Vanya is a unisex name in fact. In both cases it is a derived diminutive from Ivan/a (male/female). It is full with such name variations in all Slavic languages. In some one form is more popular than the other which is probably the reason why you think Vanya is solely male. In my language for example Vanya is almost exclusively used for women while Vanyo for men.

[–]PassionateIntensity 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh God, I bet they will. I wondered how they'd deal with the "only actors of X identity can play X roles" thing. IF she's no longer a woman and a lesbian...welp, have the character transition.