Indoctrination / Doublethinkhow can i best explain why a white man cannot identify as a black lesbian?

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[–]JoshuaNumbersHomo Sap 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

An entire thread of people who don't know the word "ethnicity."

My Klingon grandmother said this would happen. nagh Hochbe' lo'ta'pu' Duj

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Top comments recommending ad hominem attacks because anyone who asks a question they can't answer.

Imagine if the tables were turned. "Of course men can't be women you fucking asshole!"

[–]Ladis_Wascheharuum 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"Race is a social category but must be based on real external factors, but gender is a social category that's based on the individual's personal feelings."
"But... why the difference?"
"You're arguing in bad faith, bigot!"

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gender is a social category that is not based in heritage (women don't only give birth to women), not genetic (even if you don't count trans people, there are XY women and XX men)

While the male-determining gene (SRY) may not be located on the Y chromosome due to atypical development... how does this disprove that biological sex is not genetic?

[–]WanderingWonderWizard Extraordinaire 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unbelievable. Any comment that even suggests that it’s not a bad faith argument or to even try to explain to try to help them learn is downvoted. They really are scared of people realizing it’s all nonsense, aren’t they

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

To make it clear: both race and gender are real, biological things. (Yes, race is a biological thing too: the difference being that you can mix races but the two sexes are firmly separated. Race is indeed a spectrum, unlike sex.)

Therefore, identifying as another race is about as dumb and science-denying as identifying as another gender.

[–]NormalPear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

To make it clear: both race and gender are real, biological things.

Neither of these things are "real, biological things." SEX exists, gender doesn't. Keeping that concept alive is what caused this trans BS alive. Plus, the whole John Money situation. Plus, there's no such thing as a "female" or "male" brains, the supposed differences are insignificant.

Race isn't real either. Phenotypes exist, but race doesn't. The definition of race is different than what it was in the past.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Gender = sex, so sex exists. Gender is only a synonim of sex. Race is 100% real too. Sorry to break it up to you, but there are physical differences between the races, that go beyond the skin colour (for example, skulls have a different shape, so you can tell the race of a corpse just by its skeleton).

Races exist but the differences between them are absolutely not as strong or relevant as those between male and female. Races can be mixed but sex/gender is binary.

[–]NormalPear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Gender USED to mean sex, but it is absolutely useless to continue using. The only other usage for it is grammatical gender. Plus, gender roles (alongside GNC).

Race is 100% real too

Sorry to break it to you, but it isn't. Science has proven otherwise. Using outdated, racist AF concepts isn't going to make it real either. Race is defined more than simply "physical differences". Its definitions have always changed, and if the concept continues to exist in the further, it'll change again.

Phenotypes are a adaption to the environment. A person will be more similar to another of a different "race," than of someone of their own "race." Diseases associated (sickle cell) with specific groups, can actually be found in different groups. Not one.

Humans are humans, not dogs.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sorry to break it to you, but it isn't. Science has proven otherwise.

Do you know you can even tell a person's race by their bones? Just saying, buddy. Race is very very real. Now the real question is why you don't like to hear that.

[–]NormalPear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Race isn't real, love. Not matter how much you want it to be.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then why can we tell a person's race from their skull? Race is real. Now the real question is why you hate this fact. I suppose you're racist, you hate thinking that people can be different from you, you're afraid of differences, so you tell yourself people aren't different.

[–]NormalPear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently, using their logic makes you a bigot.