Chit-ChatSunday Social - open chat!

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In-between moments of righteous activism, we all have lives we attend to. What did you do last week, or what are your plans this week? Watching any good movies or shows? Go on any dates? Struggling with, or achieved, any major life goals? Survive any alien invasions?

Do you want to promote a new sub, or discuss topics that otherwise get removed? Do you want to introduce yourself, but are feeling too shy to make your own post?

Feel free to share here!

NOTE: our Rules are relaxed, but not gone entirely. Be excellent to each other!

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Us mods are trying to find a site where we can have private long-and-involved posts with one another and something like a Wiki.

We have a private mod sub here on SaidIt, but with new Admins joining the team, privacy is compromised. We still have a private mod sub on Reddit somehow, but we can't and don't depend on that except in a dire emergency. We've thought about Google Docs, but a concern is that we may accidentally access it with our main/personal GMail and then there goes privacy. We've also thought about creating our own site, but again, privacy (for the creator, and everyone accessing it) - and also what happens to all of it if the main person hosting and paying for it has to leave permanently.

Anyone have any ideas?

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've been thinking of ways to get that kind of control and reliability with privacy and I can't come up with anything so far other than starting a plain website and adding a bare-bones forum that you can easily archive. Sites owned/controlled by other people is always going to be a threat to the persistence of those 3 things.

I have very limited website making experience, so there are most likely things I've haven't taken into account, but what about a private site made with and hosted on WordPress with the bbPress plugin for the forum?

WP has different roles and permissions that can be given to people who would have to log in to access the privated site, and I don't think it'll reveal who the other users are.

The main caveat is you'd need a business plan to actual implement plugins which can get expensive, but the bbPress plugin itself has not subscription and created/maintained by WordPress developers.

A stop gap may be to go to an unrelated reddit-ish site but with no woke weirdos prying into things but I'll be honest idk what site that would be as they have their tentacles everywhere.

It's an interesting challenge though; Trying to come up with ways of doing this particular thing that doesn't leave any loose ends. Here are some other options for creating forums:

https://comparakeet.com/forum-software/

https://websitesetup.org/best-forum-software/

https://www.hostinger.com/tutorials/best-forum-software

And there's always self-hosted websites which eliminates the payment factor but I'd be out of my depth even talking about that.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's been a long time, but I remember researching Wordpress. This was back in the r/GenderCritical days, easily 3 or 4 years ago, when Jonathan Yaniv (Jessica Yaniv, Jessica Simpson, TrustedNerd, whatever he wants to call himself now) was originally making headlines.

A major RadFem blog got shut down, GenderTrender, and that was critical news. GenderTrender was a Wordpress blog, and I was able to trace back the chain-of-command of shareholders and investors to big tech companies (Twitter, Facebook, etc) who were demonstrating trans-positive/promotion and banning women and/or LGB who spoke against it. I shared what I found, and predicted a few other blog/article sites would start getting shut down since the same shareholders and investors held these other companies too. It actually happened, Medium was my primary prediction and they started banning people a few months later. I saved the comment in my Reddit account for reference, but now that GC is gone, so is that.

Anyway, all of that is to say, if Wordpress or their affiliates are our hosts, we can't trust it. And not just on a peer-to-peer level, we can't trust it on a global scale.

It would be awesome to have a self-hosted website. But I'll be honest, none of us have enough smarts to do that. Nor do we have the equipment. Or the funds.

Self-hosting means someone has servers (computers) everything is running on. Also guaranteed uptime by paying for electricity and internet connection, either in-home or with an established company who will keep the hardware safe and protected. And back to privacy, someone is paying an ISP (Comcast, ATT, etc) to be online, and that is easily traceable. And then also, someone has to pay an established webhost (GoDaddy, Epik, Amazon, etc) to be the go-between.

That's a very simple explanation, and it doesn't even get into the nitty-gritty details of what else we would need. None of us are Andrew Torba or Josh/Null, I can guarantee that, we can't do all of that for ourselves.

We're looking to start with somewhere we can just store unique conversations and documents among ourselves, and then work up to the rest if we can.

THANK YOU for those links, we'll start digging into the sites they mention and see if they'll accept us even just saving what we need saved.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Could you create a private Discord server?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We do already have a private chat which functions similarly as Discord, but allows us to have more anonymity because of unique logins for each server.

The trouble is, when we want to have long and involved conversations about single subject, or store reference materials for the long-term, it's REALLY easy to miss because chat is just one line after another after another.

That's where forums work better because of titles and threaded comment chains, and the ability to have a Wiki for storage. It keeps subjects organized.

To put it into context:

I posted this Sunday Social about 36 hours ago. There have been 4 new posts in this sub since then:

  • Delusional hetero women call themselves "gay"
  • Trans-woman public official detransitions after harassing lesbian out of LGBTQ+ org
  • New lesbian org in the USA tackles child transition
  • LGB polls shows we don't want anything to do with "Pride" parades

Pretend you're a mod, and I want to ask you and the rest about all 4 and get your input.

How would I do that in a way that's clear and obvious for you and the rest to see? How would you talk to me about each post without line-after-line-after-line of text intermixed with others doing the same? Where would I be able to keep the details separate and understand all of your unique input? How can I finally end the discussion and highlight the final decision we all came to about each of them?

I could make a channel in the server to discuss the posts for today, but how would we all be clear and precise about the 4 different subjects with all of us talking over each other at once? I could make separate channels for each post, but what happens tomorrow, when there are 4 more different subjects to talk about?

Chat is not the appropriate venue for projects or in-depth moderating. It's a place for freeform discussion and chit-chat, and/or a place to add short alerts/notices.

[–]Tikiri 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anyone like mystery/thriller novels? I just read a really good one: Bath Haus by P.J. Vernon! It’s quite o.t.t., like a gay version of a Lifetime movie🤣 ... but it’s well-written and a definite page-turner. It’s about a man, Oliver, who cheats on his older, wealthy physician partner/fiancé with an anonymous hottie he encounters at a bath house in Washington DC (where the story takes place). Said hottie turns out to be a psycho who almost chokes Oliver to death, but he makes a narrow escape and thinks he can put it behind him. Hahaha NOPE! Things go from 0 to 11 in no time, and the story gets crazier and twistier till the very end.

Won’t give away any spoilers, but it’s a great read, and if you’re a thriller/mystery fan you’ll love it!

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ooooh, that sounds good! Horror is my favorite, but second would definitely be mystery/thriller/suspense.

I don't have time to sit down and physically read anymore, so I do audiobooks while I'm walking or driving. Do you know if it's available with a good narrator? The audio speaker really makes-or-breaks the involvement.

[–]Tikiri 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t listen to audiobooks, so I’m not familiar with narrators. However, it’s available on audible, with narrators Michael Crouch and Daniel Henning:

https://www.audible.com/pd/Bath-Haus-Audiobook/0593402758

If you’re in the U.S., you may be able to download it in audio format free-of-charge from your library too - I think it’s called “Cloud Library” or something like that.😀

[–]Datachost 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well that new Adidas ad campaign is certainly... something

[–]cryptoterfthrowTomcattin' 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What's it like?

[–]Datachost 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's about empowering women in sports. They launched the campaign by tweeting a collage of 25 women's bare breasts to promoted their sports bra range and have also launched a series of video ads, which present wearing a hijab as empowering and also portrays a transwoman competing in women's sports as breaking down barriers. It's like they went into it with the explicit goal of pissing off radfems

[–]cryptoterfthrowTomcattin' 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That sounds like a nightmare. As an ex-muslim woman I'm just dreading the day some western male decides to become a hijabi transwoman. I've seen it before, but none too high-profile.

[–]Datachost 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51_C_QSbsFI

This is the hijab ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftlwqHXxKUw

And here's the transwoman one.

Not only is she an unstoppable athlete

Gee, I wonder why