Yes. But crucially, you can still figure out who is getting played because they're toeing the NPD party line. It's just exponentially harder to convince multiple people they are total suckers, because they don't want to look at that. They make it about themselves instead of protecting the org. What made this even more fun was that the more skilled manipulator targeted the other manipulator (and succeeded despite the other one being warned—that was before the other one became obvious themselves as the second manipulator in the picture), before trying that same crap on the rest of the leadership. I was the only one who saw through it. And there was a mountain of evidence demonstrating the problem. They jammed their heads up their asses on purpose as far as I can tell.

Dumbfucks. :-)