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[–]julesburm1891 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I haven’t watched it yet, but my understanding is that Chappelle does talk a lot of of shit about gay people not liking DaBaby making some actually shitty remarks about gay people. (Notice how we aren’t sending death/rape threats to him or demanding he be completely deplatformed. But whatever.)

If you don’t like Dave Chappelle, don’t watch the special. It’s that simple.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who doesn’t Dave Chapelle not talk shit about? Comedians are supposed to make fun of everybody and everything, no matter how sacred. Even back in the Middle Ages, when criticising the king publicly was a capital crime, the court jester was allowed to make fun of the king and crack jokes at the king's expense.

[–]julesburm1891 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree that comedians shouldn’t have any golden calf. My point of contention with Chappelle is that he’s not fairly characterizing the criticism of DaBaby. The guy called gay people nasty and joked about us getting AIDS. (It would be like Matt Boemer calling black people gross and making fun of sickle cell. We should all be able to agree that’s shitty and tacky on both sides.) DaBaby got told he was being a shit head and that was pretty much the end of it. My understanding of this comedy routine, however, is that Chappelle is acting like DaBaby is unfairly put upon by a mob of privileged gays. Like, no. He actually said something pretty homophobic and he got called out. No one is canceling him or threatening him. Let’s all just move on and not play oppression olympics.

[–]yellowtail 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The only way these people (AGP men) hijacked our institutions was by calling every single institution and lobby group racist because it wasnt representing black people and it was mostly white people with money...which was the point: they were the best to represent homosexual interests.

But they kept invoking "intersectionalism" over and over again. Fetishizing blackness and its "victimhood". Every single gay and lesbian lobby group was hijacked by them through charges of racism. And now that very same oppression olympics they uplifted and used against gays and lesbians is now screwing them over because he's black.

[–]Criticallacitirc 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

This Dave Chapelle bit about the LGBTQ community is hilarious. He can make fun of us all he wants

https://youtu.be/ARAROgMXpCM

[–]julesburm1891 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I absolutely love that skit. It cracks me up every time.

It is, however, not what I’m talking about. In the new special, Chappelle apparently goes off about how privileged gays bullied the rapper DaBaby. What actually happened is that DaBaby called gay people nasty and made “jokes” about us getting AIDS. Gays responded by saying DaBaby was an asshole for it and he lost some fans.

If DaBaby merely poked some fun at us, fine. Even if he said, “I don’t agree with that lifestyle” whatever. The problem is that he was being actually fucking hateful and then pretending to be a victim when people told him he was being a dickhead. We aren’t above criticism or poking fun. My problem is when someone pretends we’re oppressing another person by sticking up for ourselves in response to actual homophobia.