Gay MenWhat's Up With "Gender Critical" Gay Guys? They are tacky, spiteful, and, so far, mostly British

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[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 49 insightful - 1 fun49 insightful - 0 fun50 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Ugh I could only get through maybe half of this before I had to hit the back button because I just couldn't take the self-important bullshit anymore. I hate the idea that I, a gay man, must be exactly similar in ideology to every other gay man, like we're all just one big mass of queer and not that literally the only thing unifying gay men is the fact that we like dick.

I don't understand how these people just can't fathom that someone may not be obsessed with identity politics, that some (read: many, if not most) gay men and lesbians want to be "normal" and get married and have a family and not "queer the idea of marriage."

I want to live in my house on a corner lot in a quiet neighborhood with my husband and two dogs, and like... that's fucking it. I don't have rainbow flags on my house. I don't have fucking activist garden signs. I just want to live a quiet life and not have people beating down my door because they don't want a gay in their neighborhood. And guess what? That's what I do! And I'd appreciate it if I wasn't associated with self-absorbed twits that think the whole world revolves around them, but because I'm "LGBT" I don't have a choice! All this stupid identity shit is doing is making people like gay people less and less, and this article writer and the interviewees have the gall to play the, "I don't even get why people are mad, like, it doesn't even affect you at all mannnnnnnnnn," game.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 28 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I hate the idea that I, a gay man, must be exactly similar in ideology to every other gay man, like we're all just one big mass of queer and not that literally the only thing unifying gay men is the fact that we like dick.

I hate that idea as well. Why should I have to believe in multiple genders or support a certain economic system just because I am a man who wants to suck another man's cock? I like cock, but I also have my own beliefs and ideas. Some people might strongly disagree with some of the things I believe, but so what?

What you want in life is valid. I’m still trying to figure out whether I want to live in a small city, a medium sized town, or a village, whether I want to own a small house or a flat (apartment) or whether or not I want kids or even a pet. I know I would like to have a life partner, but I’m still not sure if I want to marry him or just cohabitate with him. But I do know that I don’t like it when people bother me about shit I don’t care about, or when people try to get me to believe what they believe in.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why should I have to believe in multiple genders or support a certain economic system just because I am a man who wants to suck another man's cock

Having thoughts of your own violates the mythical monolithic LGBT status the T know they've had to use to get power.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The T wants us submissive. Governments and soulless corporations want us submissive, though they want everyone submissive.

[–]millicentfawcett[S] 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

If it's any consolation I think the article says a lot more about them and like the NYT hit piece on British terfs a couple of years back (that this was clearly modelled on) it might not have the effect they are hoping for. What actually ends up happening is anyone reading who isn't a member of the church of queer gets confused and looks into the orgs they are slagging off. This is how The Peakening happens.

As an aside I find it quite funny that Terf Island and Mumsnet (lol) are apparently living rent free in the head of some American dude.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Another consolation is that if people who do not subscribe to the Church of Queer come across this article, they will learn that not all gay men subscribe to radical woke ideologies.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Indeed—the Streisand effect is in play here. That's part of what peaked all of us: The intensity of their efforts to silence dissent.

Spending your time making sure everyone sees you as a victim does come with the downside of your audience learning that others disagree with you.

[–]Dromedary 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Haha. I love "Educate yourself!" from TRAs, because when normies do read up, they're even more horrified.

"Wait, they take part of your colon to form your..? And it ca semell like..? And how often are their complication? Really! And a phalloplasty is..? Wait, they do what with your arm? Let's see what it looks like.. OH MY GOD MY EYES! And you want kids on the path to THIS, ans well as permanent sterility and loss of sexual function? Medical patients for life? Jesus!". The more people read, the more they're peaked!