Indoctrination / Doublethink/r/lgbt confirms that raping ones mother is a much lesser crime than being misgendered

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[–][deleted] 41 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 0 fun42 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's ok, I don't consider myself a trans ally and this is just reinforcing that decision for me.

Comparing calling a man he to a slur is ridiculous, but what else should we expect from a community that constantly uses slurs against homosexuals?

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What's interesting is in the comments they say the person is mentally unstable and probably lies about everything including "identity" but for some reason you can't question that identity even if you know that the person isn't serious and is actually a crazy person.

Their arguments aren't terrible in terms of the way people can't seem to understand having 2 ideas in their head at the same time... Just the way they deify self ID is so weird. People do need to agree that you can exist outside of sectarian narratives though. I do think that doing so would actually hurt their own TRA propaganda which might make sense as to why so many of them use the "no true Scotsman" fallacy when one of them does something wrong. They need the narrative to have TRAs be the eternal victim in all cases otherwise it isn't as easy to make ridiculous arguments that minor criticisms are "literal violence."

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 24 insightful - 8 fun24 insightful - 7 fun25 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

What's interesting is in the comments they say the person is mentally unstable and probably lies about everything including "identity" but for some reason you can't question that identity even if you know that the person isn't serious and is actually a crazy person.

"He's not really trans but let's continue enabling him, it will surely do alot of good to our public image".

[–]Femaleisnthateful 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If Chris Chan claimed to be just-plain-old-gay, and people doubted the sincerity of his claims, I can't see any gay rights group rushing to claim him as one of theirs. I'm pretty sure they'd be happy to quietly disavow him.

Why are transactivists so hung up on protecting trans-identified predators, I wonder?

[–]strawberrycake 36 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Which is funny because Chris Chan is the poster child for self-ID being a horrible idea. He has an extensive history of doing and saying creepy things to women. He was the definition of incel before the term was coined. The idea of him wanting to be a lesbian is so clearly messed up. I can’t fathom how society has fallen this hard for anyone to take his identity seriously.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He’s had many interactions with women where they’d be friendly with him and then he’d keep touching them even after they tell him to stop.

[–]strawberrycake 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don’t remember all the sordid details of his past. I do remember his creepy sex drawings. Lesbian indeed…

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Keep in mind that these drawings are of animals. Yes, anthropomorphic animals, but animals nonetheless.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I honestly hope it goes to trial and chris has some crowed funded progressive lawyer try to use his self IDing as a real wahmen as a defense for how he couldn't commit incest/rape. Not only would it be hilarious to see the twitterazi promote it but it would peak a lot of normies who are (for whatever reason) still on board with gender identity.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chris Chan is the perfect example of an autogynephilie.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

These people want to distract from the fact that Chris Chan has raped his own dementia-ridden mother.

Anyway, Chris Chan is quite an interesting figure. For the wrong reasons. I saw the video where he got arrested, and in it he displays his inability to understand the gravity of what he’s done.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

He raped his own fucking mother? Wow. This is new level of madness.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

And unless he gets a proper sentence, he might even sink to a whole new low.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaclownfish is a clown or a fish? || Febfem 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Well...looks like declaring to be trans can either leave him completely unpunished, or will require to remade laws in his state to "include women".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7x67k3XMAAdKCQ?format=jpg&name=medium

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In Ireland, incest is only punishable if it’s between brother/sister, mother/son, father/daughter and grandfather/granddaughter. This means that a man can have sex with his grandmother, his aunt, his niece (if she’s over 17), his female cousins and any male member of his family, including his dad and his adult son, and a woman can have sex with any female member of her family plus her adult grandson, uncle, adult nephew and male cousin. Same-sex incest is banned only if it involves a child or if it’s non-consensual. It’s gross, but the government is only concerned about preventing a pregnancy resulting from incest, in which case the child could be born with serious medical conditions, which is why sex between grandmothers and adult grandsons is legal. The fact that incest destroys families is considered a personal matter for the government. The problem is, Ireland has a self-ID gender identity law. I'm not sure what happens if a man who is legally a woman has sex with his mother or his sister. So if Chris Chan was living in Ireland, he could only be prosecuted for having sex with his mother without her consent.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaclownfish is a clown or a fish? || Febfem 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's so messed up.

And "Self-ID" is messing up it even more. Laws were crafted with sex in mind, with statistics and reality of biological and reproductive functions. And now all of them are failing because anyone can identify as any sex at any moment.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ireland requires you to fill out a form before you change your legal "gender" and then get it signed off by bureaucrats, which is still too goddamn easy. After that, Jaime can now have sex with Cersei without worrying about a ten year prison sentence hanging over them, and there’s nothing Tywin can do except try to get sole custody of his three genetically deformed grandchildren, and he’ll succeed only if the community sides with him.

[–]DimDroog 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The fact that incest destroys families is considered a personal matter for the government

The government needs to realize that what destroys families, sickens and destroys society.

Good grief, that is horrifying about Irish law.

a woman can have sex with any female member of her family plus her adult grandson, uncle, adult nephew and male cousin.

Doesn't take into account the power dynamics.

A mother abusing her daughter is creating mental anguish beyond belief.

Good grief, I'm tired of humans.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not tired of humans. I’m just tired of politicians, corporate-sponsored journalists and bankers. And people who blindly believe their lies.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Oh I think he will find some lows in prison. I doubt his mental health is going to improve there.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True. He’s unpredictable that man.

[–]DimDroog 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it's very disturbing.

She's 80 years old, and has dementia to boot.

[–]serf_n_terfStraight Ally - Surf’s up! 🏄‍♀️ 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is some of the most degenerate shit I’ve read.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chris Chan is just one of many on the internet.

[–]julesburm1891 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Wait. Wut?

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He took advantage of his mother’s disability. He is a sick man.

[–]julesburm1891 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

What the actual fuck? Please tell me he’s going to rot in a men’s prison.

[–]dramasexual 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He's in Virginia, which I believe houses MTFs in men's prison until they get SRS. He's fully intact, so he should be in a men's prison.

The sheriffs department released a statement about his arrest calling him "he" throughout, which I think is a good sign.

[–]insta 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It'll be interesting to watch going forward. I would guess they'll do anything and everything to keep him out of prison.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Currently being held in a women’s prison as I understand it.

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Nah, if he actually does get imprisoned, he’s going into a women's prison. Virginia has been getting cucked lately. And mind you, Chris Chan has a history of touching women even after they’ve told him to stop.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Mind you, he violated his mom's restraining order against him and then raped her. This man is unhinged. God I have been following his saga for sometime now, its not a really cute look to defend this AGP.

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There is nothing defensible about this man. He may not understand that what he’s done is wrong, but this is why he should have been kept in a psychiatric institution.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm currently arguing rn with a wokebro on a facebook group who really insists that Chris is a woman and I shouldn't "misgender" him. God this world is mad and going on full clownmode.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I used to see Russia and China as the greatest enemies of western civilisation until this shit started happening. Now I see that western civilisation is its own worst enemy. And I’m fine with China becoming a world superpower. This crap wouldn’t fly in China - Chinese people would call Chris Chan 'he' without any restraint and then laugh at anyone who screams at them for misgendering a sex pest. Chinese people don’t give a fuck about this gender madness, they won’t play.

[–]DiscoStegosaurus 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s not even “misgendering.” I am so sick of their newspeak. It’s being scientifically accurate and telling the truth. I’m sick of being forced to lie by people who I don’t like at all. I’m not doing it. I refuse.

[–]JulienMayfair 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Team Trans always seems to pick the worst possible examples to champion.

School shooter? Don't worry about the fact that she murdered someone, just concentrate on whether or not she's being misgendered in news reports. Then blame her victim.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

TRAs almost always pick the wrong hill to die on.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

TRAs almost always pick the wrong hill to die on.

This characteristic could almost serve as an alternate definition of the TRA phenomenon.

[–]julesburm1891 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wait. There was a trans school shooter?

[–]JulienMayfair 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-colorado-shooting/transgender-teen-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-deadly-colorado-school-shooting-idUSKCN24Q00D

[–]julesburm1891 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting. There aren’t very many female school shooters. But, since the perp essentially said “people didn’t see me as a real boy so I snorted Coke and shot them,” I shouldn’t be surprised that trans narcissism has led the way here.

[–]DrMantisToboggan 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if she was validated and sent to a men's prison.

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He’s not being “misgendered”. He’s a man and a sick one at that.

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Unfortunately, the law, the media and most of society entertains his delusions.

[–]SaltySkank 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Tch. How very telling. "Sure, SHE (HER IDENTITY IS VaLiD GUYZ!!11) raped and abused HER(!1!!) own fucking elderly mother with dementia, but that's not important right now - DON'T MISGENDER HER!!!!!11one!!!!1 YOU'RE VIOLATING THAT PREDATOR's R I G H T S!!!"
I don't give a flying fuck what this sack of shit thinks it is and is pretending to be. Thankfully, the TRAs are here to remind me that I am a bigger piece of shit than this scum of the earth fucker and literal rapist because I won't play the pronoun / self-ID'ed gender game. Because never forget, that's what REALLY matters here, apparently.

This makes me want to weep for humanity. These people are so fucking deranged.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I see chris chan has finally made an appearance here. He is much like Yaniv but less functional. I was waiting to post about him for when the trial started as I heard a rumor that incest is only illegal male to female and since chris now identifies as female the act could not be illegal because he now posses a girl penis.

There is a 58 part documentary on his life on youtube. I never watched it because I dont enjoy watching other people suffer and chris suffers from a lot of mental problems and needs help and separation from society, not mockery.

Chris is also autistic and (was?) an incel. Incel + autistic males make the most authentic women.

[–]strawberrysun 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've known about Chris for a very long time. Like since I was in high school, and now I'm in my late 20s. Absolutely wild and messed up tale, and I'm honestly surprised it has taken this long for him to do something as sick as what he did to his mom.

I remember when he was a regular, old school-style homophobe.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I remember when he was a regular, old school-style homophobe.

Which gives his whole lesbian women larp a whole new meaning, doesn't it?

[–]strawberrysun 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, honestly I never could have pictured this happening 10 years ago...

And of course Twitter is still trying to defend him as a perfectly valid lesbian!

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I’m watching the documentary right now. His life is sad, but it’s like watching a trainwreck. I knew this sub was going to be talking about him one day.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes a very slow, fat, and spastic trainwreck that somehow manages to be off the tracks yet riding them at the same time. One might think Oedipus Rex will be the last chapter but I feel there is more to come. The people who leaked the audio and chat logs have been doxxed and are very smart zoomers from reddit. They'd been in contact with him for over a year. Who knows what else is down that rabbit hole.

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One thing I know for sure is we haven’t seen the last of Chris Chan.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

58 parts? Jesus Christ..

I'm surprised how I haven't ever heard of him until now considering how much YT I take in.

The frequency of mentally disturbed and depraved members of the Trans-Identifying community beggars belief.

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Who would want to identify as trans besides those with mental illness or who had suffered trauma?

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He is much like Yaniv but less functional.

Wow. That's saying something.

[–]DimDroog 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can't see it?

The circle just keeps spinning around.

is it deleted?

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

r/lgbt are pedo enablers, they are bottom of the barrel, what more you expect from them? I just can't wait to see the general people getting peaked en masse because of this insanity. TRAsh are digging their own graves because there is a point till which a society will be "liberal", pushing it to the limit will only bring more harm to themselves

[–]DimDroog 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The problem is, it's going to drag gay and lesbian men and women right down with them.

The T is hooked on like a tick to LGB rights.

It's fricking horrible.

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Yeap homosexuals are sadly collateral damage in this war against Al Queerda

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Put this is in the file of primary peaking material. No one whose mind hasn't been fried by ideology thinks this way. And any rational person can see using male pronouns to describe an obvious male raping his mother is not "punishing" by using male pronouns but speaking in necessary factual terms.

The lesbians who excuse and enable this gender nonsense need to know that they are making it so that "lesbians" are statistically the most violent demographic and the most likely to commit acts of pedophilia. That's what validating males as lesbians gets us. We are such a small demographic that it's easy for our statistics to be skewed in this direction. We will look like the ones who need to be kept out of women's locker rooms ffs.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The lesbians who excuse and enable this gender nonsense need to know that they are making it so that "lesbians" are statistically the most violent demographic and the most likely to commit acts of pedophilia. That's what validating males as lesbians gets us. We are such a small demographic that it's easy for our statistics to be skewed in this direction. We will look like the ones who need to be kept out of women's locker rooms ffs.

God, I hadn't thought of it this way (only that "respecting the gender identity" of such violent AGP men makes women in general look like Public Enemy #1)... but of course you're right. It targets the most marginalized of an already-vulnerable group, who have not only misogyny to contend with, but also homophobia. So this sort of thing just serves to throw fuel on the fire.

Makes me think that we need to start coming up with plans for when this trans-madness is over: what should be done to repair the damage... and hold those who brought it about accountable. So that nothing like this ever happens again.

[–]chupacabrawitchI'm super thanks for asking 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm glad I peaked when I did because holy shit this is exactly the road we are heading down, sick fucks pushing themselves into women's prisons and shelters to abuse us. I knew something was off when they started going from the trans is trans as its own identity to trans is just as much as the real thing, and you cannot question it or risk losing your job from doxxing and blackmail...

[–]ZveroboyAlinaclownfish is a clown or a fish? || Febfem 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Looks like it is common to think like that among them: https://twitter.com/genderisharmful/status/1423232140649586689

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ooooooh yeah

[–]fijupanda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

O_O

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is what happens when the TRA's take advantage of an unwell autistic person. He's also a bisexual agp from what I've read and seen.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TIL that Caitlin Jenner is just as bad a person as ChrisChan.

Why? Because of the sports thing?